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Topic Started: Sep 13 2014, 04:57 PM (1,636 Views)
Delphi51	Sep 13 2014, 04:57 PM Post #1
Member title Posts: 13,967 Group: Administration Member #441 Joined: October 10, 2006	DW loved this heater, so we bought it on the spot and brought it home in the minivan. It was supposed to be 300 pounds but seemed even heavier in the crate. All cast iron from Vermont. The store's installers were booked up for the year so we took it on ourselves. I made a ramp with two ladders and some 2x6s and we slid it in its crate right from the van down to the sun room floor. It is nice having a floor at ground level. Lots of work setting it up. The fan, the "wood" and some electronics had to be installed. Look at all these controls: Posted Image The module on the floors takes orders from the remote and controls the stove. The chimney with inner and outer pipes (fresh combustion air comes in through the outer part) was quite a little job. No wonder they charge more than $500 for an install. Posted Image Sorry, no flames yet - waiting for the plumber to hook up the gas line.



agate	Sep 13 2014, 06:43 PM Post #2
Posts: 21,864 Group: Administration Member #203 Joined: February 2, 2006	Looks lovely Delphi. I am sure you both will enjoy it come winter, especially a northern winter :)



FuzzyO	Sep 13 2014, 11:16 PM Post #3
Posts: 16,968 Group: Administration Member #710 Joined: March 30, 2010	That's very attractive.



wildie	Sep 14 2014, 07:24 AM Post #4
Veteran Member Posts: 12,173 Group: Member Member #442 Joined: October 11, 2006	Delphi51 Sep 13 2014, 04:57 PM DW loved this heater, so we bought it on the spot and brought it home in the minivan. It was supposed to be 300 pounds but seemed even heavier in the crate. All cast iron from Vermont. The store's installers were booked up for the year so we took it on ourselves. I made a ramp with two ladders and some 2x6s and we slid it in its crate right from the van down to the sun room floor. It is nice having a floor at ground level. Lots of work setting it up. The fan, the "wood" and some electronics had to be installed. Look at all these controls: Posted Image The module on the floors takes orders from the remote and controls the stove. The chimney with inner and outer pipes (fresh combustion air comes in through the outer part) was quite a little job. No wonder they charge more than $500 for an install. Posted Image Sorry, no flames yet - waiting for the plumber to hook up the gas line. I'm surprised that a stove pipe that size, is required for a gas stove? Or perhaps its a dual purpose pipe. One that supplies combustion air as well as an exhaust for gas fumes! My son, who lives in the Ottawa area installed a pellet stove last year. He reduced his annual heating (electrical) costs from $2000 to $1000. The pellets come from Quebec, so I assume that the Quebecois are happy that the Ontario government has generated more revenue for them!



Bitsy	Sep 14 2014, 07:34 AM Post #5
Veteran Member Posts: 31,383 Group: Member Member #267 Joined: March 11, 2006	Dual purpose purchase...pretty piece of furniture that will keep you warm and toasty on those cold days and nights.



Darcie	Sep 14 2014, 07:53 AM Post #6
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	No wonder DW liked it, looks great.



Delphi51	Sep 15 2014, 04:18 AM Post #7
Member title Posts: 13,967 Group: Administration Member #441 Joined: October 10, 2006	Right you are, Wildie. The inner pipe for exhaust is only 4 inches. Those pipes are expensive ($20 a foot) but it is a great system. Must increase efficiency by recycling some of the heat, making the exhaust cooler and providing good combustion air with no drafts. There are a few pellet stoves around here, pellets from BC I think, and people really like them. Lots of people have wood stoves in the basement and say it can reduce furnace costs to nearly zero. Quite a job to install a wood stove chimney, though. And lots of work to get the wood. My dad had one and really liked it, making fire right up to age 97. Of course I did most of the work supplying wood and it was difficult to find wood since we didn't have any land nearby. Gas is quite a bargain all things considered.



Olive Oil	Sep 15 2014, 06:52 AM Post #8
Gold Star Member Posts: 4,747 Group: Member Member #785 Joined: June 10, 2010	That is a beautiful heater. Your sunroom is going to be a wonderful place to sit.



wildie	Sep 15 2014, 12:52 PM Post #9
Veteran Member Posts: 12,173 Group: Member Member #442 Joined: October 11, 2006	Delphi51 Sep 15 2014, 04:18 AM Right you are, Wildie. The inner pipe for exhaust is only 4 inches. Those pipes are expensive ($20 a foot) but it is a great system. Must increase efficiency by recycling some of the heat, making the exhaust cooler and providing good combustion air with no drafts. There are a few pellet stoves around here, pellets from BC I think, and people really like them. Lots of people have wood stoves in the basement and say it can reduce furnace costs to nearly zero. Quite a job to install a wood stove chimney, though. And lots of work to get the wood. My dad had one and really liked it, making fire right up to age 97. Of course I did most of the work supplying wood and it was difficult to find wood since we didn't have any land nearby. Gas is quite a bargain all things considered. I installed an Elmira airtight woodstove at my place at the lake! It was originally sold for over a $1000 and I bought it for $400. It always seemed to emit a smokey smell and I couldn't figure out why? I decided to install a hard wood floor in the room and while down on my knee's glanced up and noticed that the bottom of the door was high and a 1/4" gap was showing. Checking further, I found that one of the hinge mounts was welded on too high and the door couldn't drop down far enough. I was able to grind the mount down with my disk grinder and allow the gap to close. Problem solved! This stove was a great life (well almost-lol) saver on one occasion It was early March and an ice storm knocked out our power for ten days. Kept us warm and fed nicely! When I installed this stove, I installed a hood over-head and connected the hood to the cold air return on the forced air furnace. By placing the furnace fan on continuous run, the heat from the stove was distributed through out the building. I had the furnace thermostat set to 14C so if the stove ran out of wood during th night, the gas furnace would then pick up the heating load.



Delphi51	Sep 30 2014, 05:47 PM Post #10
Member title Posts: 13,967 Group: Administration Member #441 Joined: October 10, 2006	A big day for the sun room today. The wall bed is assembled to the point where it needs to be bolted to the wall, a tall cupboard on one side of it is half assembled. Two friends and I blew a foot of insulation into the ceiling. And the plumber came and hooked up the stove. He only charged $350 and I'm sure did a better job than the one that charged $500 to do the same thing for my garage heater last summer. But he did insist on a $150 permit to make it legal. The stove works! It will take a while to get used to using a remote to control it. Only one channel - flames. Three levels of flames. Lots of heat - with temps around 15 C outside we can't watch the flame show very long before it gets way too hot even with the windows open. I'm pretty sure it will be good down to forty below. We must remember to keep the remote in the sun room because it is the thermostat. I think a thermostat on the wall would be better and we may end up going old fashioned.



agate	Oct 1 2014, 03:37 AM Post #11
Posts: 21,864 Group: Administration Member #203 Joined: February 2, 2006	Of course it works delphi :snowflake: :snowflake: :snowflake: You two will be oh so cozy come winter.



Darcie	Oct 1 2014, 04:02 AM Post #12
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	I am so anxious to see pictures of all this, have always wanted a wall bed but never had one, they are so space saving for when one has company they are handy.



Trotsky	Oct 2 2014, 05:41 AM Post #13
Big City Boy Posts: 38,319 Group: Member Member #79 Joined: September 8, 2005	A friend had a double Murphy Bed with a mirrored bottom and walnut sides...lovely use of a small apartment. (Perhaps he had to be careful during sex?) Quote: Gas is quite a bargain all things considered. Yes it is. Pictures please, Mr. Producer. Edited by Trotsky, Oct 2 2014, 05:43 AM.



Dana	Oct 2 2014, 03:08 PM Post #14
WWS Hummingbird Guru & Wildlife photographer extrordinaire Posts: 13,054 Group: Member Member #830 Joined: March 23, 2011	wildie Sep 15 2014, 12:52 PM Delphi51 Sep 15 2014, 04:18 AM Right you are, Wildie. The inner pipe for exhaust is only 4 inches. Those pipes are expensive ($20 a foot) but it is a great system. Must increase efficiency by recycling some of the heat, making the exhaust cooler and providing good combustion air with no drafts. There are a few pellet stoves around here, pellets from BC I think, and people really like them. Lots of people have wood stoves in the basement and say it can reduce furnace costs to nearly zero. Quite a job to install a wood stove chimney, though. And lots of work to get the wood. My dad had one and really liked it, making fire right up to age 97. Of course I did most of the work supplying wood and it was difficult to find wood since we didn't have any land nearby. Gas is quite a bargain all things considered. I installed an Elmira airtight woodstove at my place at the lake! It was originally sold for over a $1000 and I bought it for $400. It always seemed to emit a smokey smell and I couldn't figure out why? I decided to install a hard wood floor in the room and while down on my knee's glanced up and noticed that the bottom of the door was high and a 1/4" gap was showing. Checking further, I found that one of the hinge mounts was welded on too high and the door couldn't drop down far enough. I was able to grind the mount down with my disk grinder and allow the gap to close. Problem solved! This stove was a great life (well almost-lol) saver on one occasion It was early March and an ice storm knocked out our power for ten days. Kept us warm and fed nicely! When I installed this stove, I installed a hood over-head and connected the hood to the cold air return on the forced air furnace. By placing the furnace fan on continuous run, the heat from the stove was distributed through out the building. I had the furnace thermostat set to 14C so if the stove ran out of wood during th night, the gas furnace would then pick up the heating load. That's a great fix AND set up ! I have lived with wood stoves in the past.



Dana	Oct 2 2014, 03:08 PM Post #15
WWS Hummingbird Guru & Wildlife photographer extrordinaire Posts: 13,054 Group: Member Member #830 Joined: March 23, 2011	Delphi, do post some more photos.



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