Medieval potion kills antibiotic-resistant MRSA superbugs

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Medieval potion kills antibiotic-resistant MRSA superbugs
Topic Started: Apr 5 2015, 06:10 AM (268 Views)
Darcie	Apr 5 2015, 06:10 AM Post #1
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	Quote: A medieval recipe found in a 1,000-year-old book can kill antibiotic-resistant superbugs that are hard to treat with modern medicine. A recipe for the potion to kill antibiotic-resisant superbugs, originally an eye salve, was found in Bald's Leechbok, a 10th-century textbook of Anglo-Saxon medical advice and recipes for medicines, salves and treatments found in the British Library. (British Library) The recipe contains: Garlic. Onion or leek. Wine. Oxgall, bile from a cow's stomach. http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/medieval-potion-kills-antibiotic-resistant-mrsa-superbugs-1.3020735 Wow, we should go back and look at their cures.



heatseeker	Apr 5 2015, 06:16 AM Post #2
Veteran Member Posts: 10,320 Group: Member Member #713 Joined: March 30, 2010	I always keep a gallon or so of ox gall around the house, just in case.



Darcie	Apr 5 2015, 06:19 AM Post #3
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	heatseeker Apr 5 2015, 06:16 AM I always keep a gallon or so of ox gall around the house, just in case. :wineglasssmile.gif: Guess you keep it in your extensive wine cellar. You never disappoint. :appl.gif:



Delphi51	Apr 5 2015, 06:33 AM Post #4
Member title Posts: 13,967 Group: Administration Member #441 Joined: October 10, 2006	Fascinating! New Scientist has the story with an additional detail or two. Quote: Using exactly the right method also seems to be crucial, says Harrison, as another group tried to recreate the remedy in 2005 and found that their potion failed to kill bacteria grown in a dish. "With the nine-day waiting period, the preparation turned into a kind of loathsome, odorous slime," says Michael Drout of Wheaton College in Norton, Massachusetts. If the 9th Century recipe does lead to new drugs, they might be useful against MRSA skin infections such as those that cause foot ulcers in people with diabetes. "These are usually antibiotic-resistant," says Diggle. However, he doesn't recommend people try this at home. It wouldn't be the first modern drug to be derived from ancient manuscripts � the widely used antimalarial drug artemisinin was discovered by scouring historical Chinese medical texts. http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn27263-anglo-saxon-remedy-kills-hospital-superbug-mrsa.html#.VSAejdKCOrU The articles seem to say it kills bacteria .... Is it an antibiotic or an antiseptic? Does it work in a living body?



heatseeker	Apr 5 2015, 07:53 AM Post #5
Veteran Member Posts: 10,320 Group: Member Member #713 Joined: March 30, 2010	My guess is that we are now in a new era of fighting bugs, which may not necessarily involve antibiotics, but probably probiotics, some derived from soil, others from plants. And shit. Researchers are having quite a bit of success in fighting serious gut disorders with fecal transplants from people with healthy flora. http://www.mayoclinic.org/medical-professionals/clinical-updates/digestive-diseases/quick-inexpensive-90-percent-cure-rate Here is a quite recent and exhaustive story from the New Yorker on the subject. Swing, you might have a look and show this to your son: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/12/01/excrement-experiment Edited by heatseeker, Apr 5 2015, 08:11 AM.



FuzzyO	Apr 5 2015, 08:13 AM Post #6
Posts: 16,968 Group: Administration Member #710 Joined: March 30, 2010	But McMaster refuses to do so for people suffering from C diff.



heatseeker	Apr 5 2015, 08:19 AM Post #7
Veteran Member Posts: 10,320 Group: Member Member #713 Joined: March 30, 2010	Medicine is quite conservative, as it should be. But there are places in Canada trying it out. And for the truly daring, there are instructions on the internet to DIY. If you scroll down the list below, you will see a physician in Hamilton who does the procedure. http://thepowerofpoop.com/epatients/where-to-get-fecal-transplant/ Edited by heatseeker, Apr 5 2015, 08:21 AM.



wildie	Apr 5 2015, 01:50 PM Post #8
Veteran Member Posts: 12,173 Group: Member Member #442 Joined: October 11, 2006	heatseeker Apr 5 2015, 06:16 AM I always keep a gallon or so of ox gall around the house, just in case. You have to have a lot of gall to do that!



heatseeker	Apr 5 2015, 10:55 PM Post #9
Veteran Member Posts: 10,320 Group: Member Member #713 Joined: March 30, 2010	You have to have a lot of gall to do that! laugh123



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