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| Topic Started: Nov 10 2015, 04:12 PM (991 Views) | |
| Darcie | Nov 10 2015, 04:12 PM Post #1 |
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Federal Court judge under review for berating sex assault complainant
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-judge-judical-review-robin-camp-1.3311574?cmp=rss&cid=news-digests-edmonton This is unbelievable. |
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| FuzzyO | Nov 11 2015, 02:11 AM Post #16 |
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Then why do appeals exist? |
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| Durgan | Nov 11 2015, 02:23 AM Post #17 |
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The Canadian practice is to keep trying a case until; the desired outcome is obtained. This has often insulted my sense of justice. Appeals are often proceeded with on technicalities if no other evidence is presented. Was this a jury case? Just because the female cried rape doesn't mean the other party is automatically guilty. PROVE IT. Or cajole the defendant into plea bargaining after subjecting him to all but the rack. Edited by Durgan, Nov 11 2015, 02:33 AM.
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| Darcie | Nov 11 2015, 02:23 AM Post #18 |
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:crying: We have a long way to go. |
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| Trotsky | Nov 11 2015, 02:41 AM Post #19 |
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When should the behavior or the feelings of the judge be cause to punish a defendant?
Appeals exist to prevent miscarriage of justice against an innocent person found GUILTY. A person found INNOCENT is protected against endless state appeals by "double jeopardy" rules. The reasons for this are clear: the state is BIG and can afford endless prosecution, whereas a defendant is SMALL and cannot. It seems clear to me that if a judge is incompetent, only HE should bear the brunt of prosecution, not a person that a jury found NOT GUILTY.
Especially if she cried rape several weeks later (after he didn't call when he said he would or after she saw him with another woman.) Edited by Trotsky, Nov 11 2015, 02:47 AM.
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| Durgan | Nov 11 2015, 02:52 AM Post #20 |
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The judge in this case is grovelling and apologizing to all and sundry. A true gutless wonder. I suspect the questions asked by the judge were relevant. Actually I am surprised that the judge even got involved in the evidence by asking questions. We have an adversity system and the crown and defense present the the facts as they see then and try to refute anything contrary to their case. Truth plays no part in the final analysis.
Edited by Durgan, Nov 11 2015, 02:54 AM.
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| FuzzyO | Nov 11 2015, 02:53 AM Post #21 |
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I think the bigger issue is the judge's victim-blaming. Perhaps that is what provides the grounds for an appeal. |
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| Bitsy | Nov 11 2015, 02:54 AM Post #22 |
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Trotsky, I am a little confused by this also. But, if judicial misconduct by a judge is found to exist in a court, can't all of his cases be called into question and new trials ordered? Oh I am beginning to understand a little more now. If I am right, this case came under review not because of an appeal by the victim but because he was being promoted from the provincial court to the Federal Court. Guess the vetting raised questions about his ruling. Edited by Bitsy, Nov 11 2015, 03:01 AM.
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| campy | Nov 11 2015, 03:10 AM Post #23 |
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It's a close call between consent and rape especially if a party and drinkimg is going on. |
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| margrace | Nov 11 2015, 03:31 AM Post #24 |
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A lady who lived near us and this is violence against women which I consider the same as rape, a few years ago saw her husband drive up to the house and then go to sleep. She knew he was drunk and that she would get another beating so she took the shot gun out and shot him. She was charged with murder and the case went on for a year before she was discharged. Now we have a case in southern Ontario where a man beat a women to death and claimed he didn't do it. He just lost his case the jury didn't believe him A young mentally challenged girl who worked in a school for the deaf told her boss that this man had raped her. He encouraged her to go to the police and the man was charged. Several days later a group of his friends picked her up and gang raped her. If I remember rightly they were all convicted of rape and my Dad and mother had a tremendous fight because of the long held belief that she asked for it. This has been a long hard fight for a lot of women and it is still going on isn't it. Edited by margrace, Nov 11 2015, 03:33 AM.
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| Trotsky | Nov 11 2015, 05:35 AM Post #25 |
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I always see it as a close call between SEDUCTION and Rape. (Of course some people would say there is no distinction.) Edited by Trotsky, Nov 11 2015, 05:36 AM.
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| Darcie | Nov 11 2015, 05:40 AM Post #26 |
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If a woman says NO and a man cannot control himself and has intercourse with her anyway is that seduction by her and not rape? |
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| swing | Nov 11 2015, 05:47 AM Post #27 |
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If a woman says NO and a man cannot control himself and has intercourse with her anyway is that seduction by her and not rape? Seduction be damned it's RAPE. Keep your knees together ~ what a jerk! |
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| Dana | Nov 11 2015, 05:53 AM Post #28 |
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Looks like very few women who have been raped in Canada ever make it to court and then with very few convictions as a result. This leads most assaulted women to remain silent. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/how-canadas-sex-assault-laws-violate-rape-victims/article14705289/?page=all
Yes, why bother complaining with anything other than a gun ! |
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| campy | Nov 11 2015, 06:14 AM Post #29 |
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I think she did keep her knees together. Over a sink? How could you do otherwise.? |
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| Trotsky | Nov 11 2015, 06:23 AM Post #30 |
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I took it as an attack from the rear with her bent over the sink. I cannot imagine SITTING in the sink with the faucet trying to wedge apart two vertebra. |
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