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| Topic Started: Nov 10 2015, 04:12 PM (988 Views) | |
| Darcie | Nov 10 2015, 04:12 PM Post #1 |
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Federal Court judge under review for berating sex assault complainant
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-judge-judical-review-robin-camp-1.3311574?cmp=rss&cid=news-digests-edmonton This is unbelievable. |
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| angora | Nov 13 2015, 04:06 AM Post #61 |
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There are many ways to coerce and using the insecurities of an unwilling partner is a very nasty way. |
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| Darcie | Nov 13 2015, 04:11 AM Post #62 |
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Yep, my first husband used to say that the kids would suffer if he was in a bad mood. I became willing real fast to protect the kids. Was it rape - today I think it was, then I was too scared for the kids. |
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| Trotsky | Nov 13 2015, 04:36 AM Post #63 |
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You REALLY believe they are equivalent threats? |
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| Darcie | Nov 13 2015, 04:39 AM Post #64 |
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‘Sex and pain sometimes go together’: Judge faces possible career ruin over rape trial comments.
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/judge-faces-possible-career-ruin-over-a-rape-trial-derailed-by-myths |
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| Bitsy | Nov 13 2015, 04:43 AM Post #65 |
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Yep, I do..resulting consequences may be different but both are threats. |
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| angora | Nov 13 2015, 05:28 AM Post #66 |
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Judge says, ‘Sex and pain sometimes go together’: Judge faces possible career ruin over rape trial comments. and then goes on,' not necessarily a bad thing.' ( last part of quote from my memory. It would be good for Jian Ghomeshi if this would be the judge to preside over his trial. ;) |
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| Trotsky | Nov 13 2015, 05:35 AM Post #67 |
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Is offering money coercion? Is offering a JOB coercion? Is offering an apartment coercion? Is offering a promotion coercion? Do they all equate to holding a knife to a throat? |
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| Bitsy | Nov 13 2015, 05:42 AM Post #68 |
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Do you want to talk coercion or threats? Walk home or consent is a threat not coercion. |
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| wildie | Nov 13 2015, 02:43 PM Post #69 |
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This subject was under discussion on TV today! A guest was being interviewed and she mentioned that the FBI in the US considers any penitration of a an orifice to be rape. Any other things of a sexual nature is a sexual assault. Here in Canada, RAPE is not a legal term. Any unwelcome sexual advance is considered a sexual assault. I assume that stroking a shoulder would be viewed less stringently that if the assault was initiated by a beating, followed by forceful removal of clothing, then penetration! Again, my assumption is that a judge would weigh the evidence and bring down a sentence befitting the severity of the assault! |
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| Dana | Nov 13 2015, 04:41 PM Post #70 |
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I am glad to know that someone is keeping watch on what judges are doing in their courtrooms and that a closer look is being taken in this instance. People complain about how much power resides with a judge. They do need to be scrutinized occasionally. |
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| Bitsy | Nov 14 2015, 01:26 AM Post #71 |
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This still doesn't answer my question to your comment:
To which I ask, Why would it not be? |
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| Trotsky | Nov 14 2015, 04:28 AM Post #72 |
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Q-tips under fire.
Well, it certainly SHOULD be a legal term because the penalties are so extreme. Having every judge and every jury having to reinvent the wheel on the subject seems silly and dangerous. Lumping violent penetration in with an uncalled-for pat on the ass is preposterous. Edited by Trotsky, Nov 14 2015, 04:35 AM.
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| David | Nov 14 2015, 04:34 AM Post #73 |
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| Darcie | Nov 14 2015, 08:35 AM Post #74 |
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| Durgan | Nov 14 2015, 08:52 AM Post #75 |
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To protect the ladies sensitivities in accusations of sexual assault, the male should be sentenced without a trial. Similar to what happens in domestic violence cases. And if there is a trial the full circumstances of the event are not to be exhibited. The accusation is enough for a conviction. Hardly in agreement with INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. Which is the very basis of our justice system. |
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