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Guy Turcotte found guilty of second-degree murder
Topic Started: Dec 7 2015, 08:43 AM (80 Views)
Darcie
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Former cardiologist Guy Turcotte has been found guilty of murdering his children.

Charged with first-degree murder for stabbing his two young children to death a combined 46 times in 2009, the jury found Turcotte guilty of second-degree murder.

After a trial lasting more than two months and seven days of deliberating, a jury of seven men and four women came to the verdict on Sunday.

A jury member nominated to speak on behalf of the 11 jurors stood and announced the verdict to a hushed courtroom just before noon.

Isabelle Gaston, mother of the slain children, sat in the front row. She lowered her head as the verdict was announced, her eyes tearing up. “Yes,” she said faintly. “Thank you.”


http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/guy-turcotte-found

Hopefully justice for the two little ones.
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Durgan
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Double Jeopardy.
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Darcie
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Not true, the appeal court found that the jury was not instructed properly.

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Trotsky
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Again,
A double jeopardy. This is getting to be the rule, rather than the exception.

Don't know how much protection Canada offers but in the U.S. it is forbidden by the Constitution:

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The Double Jeopardy Clause of the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides: "[N]or shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb . . . ."[1] The four essential protections included are prohibitions against, for the same offense:
retrial after an acquittal;
retrial after a conviction;
retrial after certain mistrials; and
multiple punishment


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There are several reasons for double jeopardy protection:
To prevent the government from using its superior resources to wear down and erroneously convict innocent persons;
To protect individuals from the financial, emotional, and social consequences of successive prosecutions;
To preserve the finality and integrity of criminal proceedings, which would be compromised if the government were allowed to ignore verdicts it did not like;
To restrict prosecutorial discretion over the charging process; and
To eliminate judicial discretion to impose cumulative punishments otherwise not clearly prohibited by law.
State courts decisions on double jeopardy can provide more protection for defendants than the U.S. Constitution, but not less. - See more at: http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-rights/double-jeopardy.


Obviously a person should be protected from an incompetent judge, but he should not be persecuted because the state chooses a jackass to dress up in black robes.
If the state screws up a prosecution because of incompetent districts attorney or incompetent judges that must be the end of it.
The power of the state is so immense that a single person should not be tortured for judicial incompetence.

Same in CANADA:
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In some countries, including Canada, Mexico and the United States, the guarantee against being "twice put in jeopardy" is a constitutional right. In other countries, the protection is afforded by statute.[3]
Edited by Trotsky, Dec 7 2015, 10:15 AM.
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campy
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And then the multiple charges which I don't agree with.

You are either charged with second degree murder or you are not.

So why do they tack on another charge.

There is a police trial going on in Toronto right now. The officer was charged with second degree murder by a civilian overseer called the SIU.

So then the Crown steps in and adds a charge of attempted murder.

The guy was shot and died. How could it be attempted murder?

It's like the Crown knows the second degree murder charge will not stick so they have something else to fall back on.

You're only 30% guilty not 100%?

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