Ontarians are a happy lot, says Forum Research poll

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Ontarians are a happy lot, says Forum Research poll
Topic Started: Jan 2 2016, 07:18 AM (534 Views)
Darcie	Jan 2 2016, 07:18 AM Post #1
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	Quote: Since at least the time of Aristotle, the desire for happiness — a state of mind characterized by contentment, satisfaction, pleasure or joy — has been deemed the central driver of human conduct. As 2016 dawns, a Forum Research poll commissioned by the Star suggests 63 per cent of Ontario adults are extremely or very happy with their lives. Only nine per cent are unhappy with their lot, and a mere two per cent aren’t happy at all. That’s an impressive degree of contentment in times of economic uncertainty, stagnant wages, precarious employment, a shrinking middle class, global upheaval and climate change. Forum president Lorne Bozinoff said the poll, which surveyed 1,001 people and is considered accurate to within three percentage points 19 times in 20, suggests Ontarians are increasingly finding contentment in activities centred on home and family. http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2016/01/01/ontarians-are-a-happy-lot-says-forum-research-poll.html Considering the state of the world I can understand why home is a 'happy' .

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Darcie	Jan 4 2016, 02:34 PM Post #31
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	campy Jan 4 2016, 02:13 PM Quote: Would you object if a Christian woman worn a cross, or Jewish man wore a yarmulke, or a Sikh wore a turban. I would object if it put down women like the niquab does. And I would not object if their face was uncovered while taking the oath. If they wanted to wear a mask, with the cross or the yarmaluke or the turban I would object. The previous women removed their niquab to take the oath Bitsy. At least that's what I read. You can correct me if I am wrong. Quote: The majority of Canadians had no problem with it for years until Harper began his campaign of fear. Fear? Canadians were not in favour of the niquab and they were in favour of the law to prohibit it at the ceremony. Quote: And what groups would that be? The woman with the cross, or the jewish man with a yarmulke or the Sikh with a turban? They are smart enough to have their religious ceremonies at the church or the mosques. Quote: It most definitely is discrimination to tell a person of one faith that their attire is inappropriate while allowing the attire of another faith. Hold it. Discrimination is not the word. It's the covering of the face that's the problem. None of the others cover their face. It won't be allowed in the workforce Bitsy. You just won't get the job if you are dealing with customers. Same with tats. Quote: Only in your world is that common sense. And thousands of other Canadians that agree with me. This w Quote: as the choice of a Muslim woman who is proud of her faith and chooses to wear the niqab as an example of her faith., Fine. Uncover yourself when taking the oath. Would you allow the same for the Ku Klux Klan in the U.S.? I doubt a niquab would be allowed at a U.S. citizenship ceremony. I could be wrong but church and state are priority in the U.S. compared to Canada. Quote: The only thing that you have made clear is your prejudices and your cowering fear. As a Muslim woman, I would celebrate what I consider a resounding victory against discrimination, it may ring hollow to your ears but to the Muslim world it is vindication again repression by the Harper Government. The only thing you have made clear is your prejudices . A Muslim woman sucking up to her discrimination by men? Her husband and family tried to talk her out of it. Some fear. Repression? Such nonsense. Quote: We know you are 100% with Harper but we celebrate that the majority of voters were not....welcome Trudeau!!! A country with a great reputation, and with one of the richest middle classes in the world. And they vote for change. How does one say stupid? Quote: At least respond to what is written, not conjecture. I will respond anyway I want to. Don't like it. Tough. Quote: Maybe I will forget them...they are becoming repetitive, redundant and irrelevant. Maybe a break from them is what I need. I will leave it to others to point your unsound arguments. You promise? One wagon missing would be a blessing. laugh123 laugh123



Bitsy	Jan 4 2016, 02:59 PM Post #32
Veteran Member Posts: 31,383 Group: Member Member #267 Joined: March 11, 2006	campy Jan 4 2016, 02:13 PM I would object if it put down women like the niquab does. And I would not object if their face was uncovered while taking the oath. If they wanted to wear a mask, with the cross or the yarmaluke or the turban I would object. The niqab does not put down a woman. That is just a cover designed to mask prejudices by Conservatives. Quote: The previous women removed their niquab to take the oath Bitsy. At least that's what I read. You can correct me if I am wrong. I have not read that so i call you wrong. If that were the case, I think it would have highly publicized. Quote: Fear? Canadians were not in favour of the niquab and they were in favour of the law to prohibit it at the ceremony. Canadians knew nothing about it until this court case; women had been taken the oath without any restrictions on their attire. Quote: They are smart enough to have their religious ceremonies at the church or the mosques. What the hell are you talking about now? We are talking about a citizenship ceremony not a religious ceremony. Quote: Hold it. Discrimination is not the word. It's the covering of the face that's the problem. None of the others cover their face. It won't be allowed in the workforce Bitsy. You just won't get the job if you are dealing with customers. Same with tats. Of course it is discrimination, telling a woman who has qualified for citizenship that she can not wear clothing of her choice is discrimination, anyway you cut it. I have see niqabs and tats in us business establishments. Quote: And thousands of other Canadians that agree with me. But more agreed with Trudeau.... 023 Quote: Fine. Uncover yourself when taking the oath. Would you allow the same for the Ku Klux Klan in the U.S.? I doubt a niquab would be allowed at a U.S. citizenship ceremony. I could be wrong but church and state are priority in the U.S. compared to Canada. Let's don't go over old ground....or did you forget already what I said about the KKK? See I told you how repetitive you have become. Quote: The only thing you have made clear is your prejudices . A Muslim woman sucking up to her discrimination by men? Her husband and family tried to talk her out of it. Some fear. Repression? Such nonsense. Read the definition of prejudice, Campy. Her niqab is not a threat to me, so as far as I am concern she may wear it, that is free of prejudice. Bully for her for sticking up to discrimination ....as I said before, she is a modern day Rosa Park. Quote: A country with a great reputation, and with one of the richest middle classes in the world. And they vote for change. How does one say stupid? Stupid? Hardly. Voters wanted a leader with values, principles, compassion and empathy not a fear mongering Nixonian PM bully. Quote: I will respond anyway I want to. Don't like it. Tough. ROFL, it is tough to respond to your reality but your conjecture is really tough...so next time , you will be talking to the hand. Quote: You promise? One wagon missing would be a blessing. Consider yourself blessed.



campy	Jan 4 2016, 03:11 PM Post #33
Handyman Extraordinaire Posts: 28,720 Group: no politics Member #204 Joined: February 2, 2006	I'll give you the last word. Take it.



Bitsy	Jan 4 2016, 03:37 PM Post #34
Veteran Member Posts: 31,383 Group: Member Member #267 Joined: March 11, 2006	campy Jan 4 2016, 03:11 PM I'll give you the last word. Take it.



wildie	Jan 5 2016, 06:49 AM Post #35
Veteran Member Posts: 12,173 Group: Member Member #442 Joined: October 11, 2006	campy Jan 4 2016, 06:59 AM Don't they have a citizenship ceremony every year where those who get their citizenship papers take the oath. of citizenship. Last year one guy took the oath and then recanted it. Another covered her face. You know stuff like that. I thought it was yearly. Correct me if I am wrong. Quote: Dec 19, 2013 - Approximately 1,700 citizenship ceremonies are held in communities across Canada every year. For a new Canadian citizen, the citizenship ... My point. 25,000 immigrants. Are they going to insist on THEIR customs when taking the oath of citizenship as these yokels did in 2015.?? I was thinking in terms that they had to be here for five years before being eligible to become a citizen. Of course, we do have annual ceremony's for those who have been here long enough!



Trotsky	Jan 5 2016, 07:03 AM Post #36
Big City Boy Posts: 38,319 Group: Member Member #79 Joined: September 8, 2005	Quote: It's like a Ku Klux Klan guy taking his citizenship oath in the U.S. with his hood on. I am fond of good analogies and that is a good one. Edited by Trotsky, Jan 5 2016, 07:03 AM.



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