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Shame on Us.
Topic Started: Jan 7 2016, 03:29 AM (1,120 Views)
Darcie	Jan 7 2016, 03:29 AM Post #1
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	At least 2,250 veterans are homeless, according to groundbreaking analysis Quote: For what's believed to be the first time, the federal government has estimated how many of Canada's homeless are former soldiers — but the department that compiled the report warns the data is far from complete. The March 2015 study by Employment and Social Development Canada estimates that 2,250 former soldiers use shelters on regular basis, about 2.7 per cent of the total homeless population that uses temporary lodging. Justin Trudeau promises $300 million plan for veterans Liberals pledge to re-open regional veterans affairs offices The information in the report, released to The Canadian Press under the Access to Information Act, comes from a database that tracks 60 emergency shelters across the country and added veterans as an identifiable category in 2014. "It's shocking in Canada that we would have any veteran who is homeless, but it is a sad reality," Gen. Jonathan Vance, the country's top military commander, said in an interview with The Canadian Press. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/2250-canadian-veterans-homeless-1.3390674?cmp=rss&cid=news-digests-canada-and-world-morning What hypocrites we are, all that pretense of supporting veterans.

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friendshipgal	Jan 9 2016, 04:37 AM Post #16
Guess everyone wants their own Trudashians Posts: 12,815 Group: Member Member #241 Joined: February 12, 2006	Olive Oil Jan 8 2016, 05:06 AM Would you like to cite a source for this statement? It was an interview with Trudeau on Global News, he said that he sees no reason to change his policy towards ISIS and the threat of Islamic terror, even if a terror attack similar to the one in Paris were carried out on Canadian soil.



Bitsy	Jan 9 2016, 05:09 AM Post #17
Veteran Member Posts: 31,383 Group: Member Member #267 Joined: March 11, 2006	friendshipgal Jan 9 2016, 04:37 AM Olive Oil Jan 8 2016, 05:06 AM Would you like to cite a source for this statement? It was an interview with Trudeau on Global News, he said that he sees no reason to change his policy towards ISIS and the threat of Islamic terror, even if a terror attack similar to the one in Paris were carried out on Canadian soil. I read a report of the interview and there was no question or mention of how Trudeau would respond to a Paris like attack on Canadian shores.



Olive Oil	Jan 9 2016, 05:16 AM Post #18
Gold Star Member Posts: 4,747 Group: Member Member #785 Joined: June 10, 2010	I could not find this on any of the Global News Interviews with Trudeau. One would think this would be a major news story. Can you give more information?



margrace	Jan 9 2016, 05:18 AM Post #19
Gold Star Member Posts: 5,367 Group: Member Member #723 Joined: April 1, 2010	Dream on you guys there will be no proof



friendshipgal	Jan 9 2016, 05:25 AM Post #20
Guess everyone wants their own Trudashians Posts: 12,815 Group: Member Member #241 Joined: February 12, 2006	margrace Jan 9 2016, 05:18 AM Dream on you guys there will be no proof I do have links, but just for that personal attack I won't..



Bitsy	Jan 9 2016, 05:29 AM Post #21
Veteran Member Posts: 31,383 Group: Member Member #267 Joined: March 11, 2006	friendshipgal Jan 9 2016, 05:25 AM margrace Jan 9 2016, 05:18 AM Dream on you guys there will be no proof I do have links, but just for that personal attack I won't.. There goes the credibility of our forum posts. If you are stating a fact, be prepared to back it up with some official sources (websites, links etc). Edited by Bitsy, Jan 9 2016, 05:31 AM.



Bitsy	Jan 9 2016, 05:38 AM Post #22
Veteran Member Posts: 31,383 Group: Member Member #267 Joined: March 11, 2006	friendshipgal Jan 7 2016, 03:55 AM Well, more money is being spent now on refugees than on any homeless people. Another unfound social media comment. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/do-government-assisted-refugees-receive-more-money-for-food-than-canadians-on-welfare-1.3230503



David	Jan 9 2016, 05:40 AM Post #23
Posts: 5,861 Group: Moderator Emeritus Member #12 Joined: June 30, 2005	Once it went through FSG's filter it came out as "He won't protect us!" lol



friendshipgal	Jan 9 2016, 05:44 AM Post #24
Guess everyone wants their own Trudashians Posts: 12,815 Group: Member Member #241 Joined: February 12, 2006	David Jan 9 2016, 05:40 AM Once it went through FSG's filter it came out as "He won't protect us!" lol And once it goes through your filters it never happened at all of course. LOL Interesting how these personal comments and attacks start isn't it.... ETA: I said 'he won't protect us', if you read the original post I didn't actually quote him: he said he sees no reason to change this new policy towards ISIS and the threat of Islamic terror, even if a terror attack similar to the one in Paris were carried out on Canadian soil. Edited by friendshipgal, Jan 9 2016, 06:02 AM.



Bitsy	Jan 9 2016, 05:56 AM Post #25
Veteran Member Posts: 31,383 Group: Member Member #267 Joined: March 11, 2006	David Jan 9 2016, 05:40 AM Once it went through FSG's filter it came out as "He won't protect us!" lol Quote: And now, our gov't tells us that even if ISIS attacked, they won't respond, they won't protect us A comment of that nature, imo, is enough to unseat a government.



swing	Jan 9 2016, 06:19 AM Post #26
swing Posts: 9,979 Group: Member Member #359 Joined: August 18, 2006	Dream on you guys there will be no proof IMO this type of comment is totally unnecessary. Why the continual attacks? People are entitled to their opinions. The continual Conservative/Liberal jabs and attacks are so tiresome. J.T. is in power, we don't have to like it, but the majority ruled. Harper had his faults but he was an economist, and carried us through bad economic times. In the end both men have to be commended for giving their life to public service. We don't have to agree on either men's policies, but it is what it is, for another 4 years. Beating up on one another on this forum accomplishes nothing, just creates animosity, life it too short my friends.



Bitsy	Jan 9 2016, 06:28 AM Post #27
Veteran Member Posts: 31,383 Group: Member Member #267 Joined: March 11, 2006	swing Jan 9 2016, 06:19 AM Dream on you guys there will be no proof I would hope there is no truth that Trudeau made that comment. If he did, I will be forced to agree that he isn't ready for prime time.



lilal	Jan 9 2016, 06:39 AM Post #28
Blue Star Member Posts: 1,545 Group: Member Member #206 Joined: February 2, 2006	swing Jan 9 2016, 06:19 AM Dream on you guys there will be no proof IMO this type of comment is totally unnecessary. Why the continual attacks? People are entitled to their opinions. The continual Conservative/Liberal jabs and attacks are so tiresome. J.T. is in power, we don't have to like it, but the majority ruled. Harper had his faults but he was an economist, and carried us through bad economic times. In the end both men have to be commended for giving their life to public service. We don't have to agree on either men's policies, but it is what it is, for another 4 years. Beating up on one another on this forum accomplishes nothing, just creates animosity, life it too short my friends. Well said swing! Thank you for saying how I feel about the endless political sniping.



Bitsy	Jan 9 2016, 06:48 AM Post #29
Veteran Member Posts: 31,383 Group: Member Member #267 Joined: March 11, 2006	lilal Jan 9 2016, 06:39 AM swing Jan 9 2016, 06:19 AM Dream on you guys there will be no proof IMO this type of comment is totally unnecessary. Why the continual attacks? People are entitled to their opinions. The continual Conservative/Liberal jabs and attacks are so tiresome. J.T. is in power, we don't have to like it, but the majority ruled. Harper had his faults but he was an economist, and carried us through bad economic times. In the end both men have to be commended for giving their life to public service. We don't have to agree on either men's policies, but it is what it is, for another 4 years. Beating up on one another on this forum accomplishes nothing, just creates animosity, life it too short my friends. Well said swing! Thank you for saying how I feel about the endless political sniping. The forum rules are clear; If you are stating a fact, be prepared to back it up with some official sources (websites, links etc). It is not political sniping to ask that the rules be followed.



Delphi51	Jan 9 2016, 06:57 AM Post #30
Member title Posts: 13,967 Group: Administration Member #441 Joined: October 10, 2006	It would be nice to see posts with links showing facts about spending on homeless people and refugees, rather than "you're always wrong" posts. This one is very interesting. Quote: According to a 2007 Wellesley Institute report cited by the CHRN, the average monthly expense of housing a homeless person in a Toronto hospital is $10,900. To provide them with a shelter bed costs $1,932. But here is where the data may surprise you: Putting a roof over that same person’s head, either with rent supplements or social housing, would require just $701 or $199.92, respectively. In fact, a similar study conducted in British Columbia discovered that province’s homeless population currently costs the public system $55,000 per person per year, but if every homeless person were instead provided with adequate housing and supports, they would require just $37,000 — saving the province $211 million annually. Toronto Star: http://tinyurl.com/acbqnk5 We do have a homeless people problem, 10% of them veterans according to an As It Happens radio interview this morning. Raising it should not be greeted with derision. I like the idea of comparing funding of slightly different problems - it can reveal interesting things and identify the influence of fads. Edited by Delphi51, Jan 9 2016, 07:04 AM.



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