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Shame on Us.
Topic Started: Jan 7 2016, 03:29 AM (1,117 Views)
Darcie	Jan 7 2016, 03:29 AM Post #1
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	At least 2,250 veterans are homeless, according to groundbreaking analysis Quote: For what's believed to be the first time, the federal government has estimated how many of Canada's homeless are former soldiers — but the department that compiled the report warns the data is far from complete. The March 2015 study by Employment and Social Development Canada estimates that 2,250 former soldiers use shelters on regular basis, about 2.7 per cent of the total homeless population that uses temporary lodging. Justin Trudeau promises $300 million plan for veterans Liberals pledge to re-open regional veterans affairs offices The information in the report, released to The Canadian Press under the Access to Information Act, comes from a database that tracks 60 emergency shelters across the country and added veterans as an identifiable category in 2014. "It's shocking in Canada that we would have any veteran who is homeless, but it is a sad reality," Gen. Jonathan Vance, the country's top military commander, said in an interview with The Canadian Press. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/2250-canadian-veterans-homeless-1.3390674?cmp=rss&cid=news-digests-canada-and-world-morning What hypocrites we are, all that pretense of supporting veterans.

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Trotsky	Jan 12 2016, 07:07 AM Post #46
Big City Boy Posts: 38,319 Group: Member Member #79 Joined: September 8, 2005	Oh I just loved when Mike Bloomberg and Bill Gates (both multi-billionaires) testified before Congress requesting more work visas because, basically, Americans are too stupid to fill the tech jobs needed. Both men should be deported to some country with a shortage of billionaires, perhaps Uganda or Senegal.



Darcie	Jan 12 2016, 07:57 AM Post #47
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	IMHO there are many jobs that North Americans find too hard, low, underpaid etc. to take. As an example, that is why most office cleaning companies are filled with immigrants/refugees. Jobs in packing plants are also one of the jobs that many North Americans shun, thus the offer to refugees to fill these jobs. I suppose it is OK for North Americans to not take these jobs but will be considered really bad if a refugee decided that these jobs are not for them. The old double standard is well and healthy.



swing	Jan 12 2016, 08:30 AM Post #48
swing Posts: 9,979 Group: Member Member #359 Joined: August 18, 2006	True, I doubt they are high paying jobs, but there must be at least 10 people unemployed in Lethbridge. Brandon, Manitoba has unemployment and I understand that unemployment among working age aboriginal people is 3 times higher. Maybe they should be working at attracting and training those people first. I'd like to know if they are getting applications or any interest at all from Canadians in those jobs, and if not why not? I'm sure there are 10 people unemployed in Lethbridge, but many won't take jobs in meat packing plants as Darcie mentioned! Farming and ranching are the main sources of income in the area. I would think, but not sure, many take seasonal farm jobs, then collect EI all winter! DH has a cousin who has 16 sections of ranch land, many are seasonal employees and collect EI during the winter. The refugees are willing to work obviously, many of our own are not!



FuzzyO	Jan 12 2016, 09:32 AM Post #49
Posts: 16,968 Group: Administration Member #710 Joined: March 30, 2010	Darcie Jan 12 2016, 07:57 AM IMHO there are many jobs that North Americans find too hard, low, underpaid etc. to take. As an example, that is why most office cleaning companies are filled with immigrants/refugees. Jobs in packing plants are also one of the jobs that many North Americans shun, thus the offer to refugees to fill these jobs. I suppose it is OK for North Americans to not take these jobs but will be considered really bad if a refugee decided that these jobs are not for them. The old double standard is well and healthy. Yes Darcie, no doubt there will be more engineers, doctors and lawyers driving cabs and working in packing plants.



friendshipgal	Jan 13 2016, 05:07 AM Post #50
Guess everyone wants their own Trudashians Posts: 12,815 Group: Member Member #241 Joined: February 12, 2006	Darcie Jan 12 2016, 07:57 AM ............... The old double standard is well and healthy. See you are judging and making unfounded statements before it happens...



margrace	Jan 13 2016, 05:42 AM Post #51
Gold Star Member Posts: 5,367 Group: Member Member #723 Joined: April 1, 2010	One of the statements about the amount of homeless says it had doubled in the last 20 years. For Ontario that would be back to the Harris years.



campy	Jan 13 2016, 11:49 AM Post #52
Handyman Extraordinaire Posts: 28,720 Group: no politics Member #204 Joined: February 2, 2006	FuzzyO Jan 12 2016, 09:32 AM Darcie Jan 12 2016, 07:57 AM IMHO there are many jobs that North Americans find too hard, low, underpaid etc. to take. As an example, that is why most office cleaning companies are filled with immigrants/refugees. Jobs in packing plants are also one of the jobs that many North Americans shun, thus the offer to refugees to fill these jobs. I suppose it is OK for North Americans to not take these jobs but will be considered really bad if a refugee decided that these jobs are not for them. The old double standard is well and healthy. Yes Darcie, no doubt there will be more engineers, doctors and lawyers driving cabs and working in packing plants. I doubt it. There is a shortage of engineers, doctors, and lawyers, at least in Canada. Why can't we ever talk REALITY.?



campy	Jan 13 2016, 11:51 AM Post #53
Handyman Extraordinaire Posts: 28,720 Group: no politics Member #204 Joined: February 2, 2006	margrace Jan 13 2016, 05:42 AM One of the statements about the amount of homeless says it had doubled in the last 20 years. For Ontario that would be back to the Harris years. One of Harpers policies was to eliminate the homeless. There were programs in place. Can't say the same for Trudeau. All he talks about is the "middle class" is going to save the country. The homeless and poor are encouraged to work their way up to the 'middle class' if they want to get in on the gravy. What a self defeating program that it. You backed the wrong horse. Excerpt: We are talking about Harper here.\ Housing First is the cornerstone of the Government's renewed Homelessness Partnering Strategy (HPS). It aims to stabilize the lives of homeless individuals for the long term by first moving them into permanent housing and then providing additional support for underlying issues, such as addiction and mental health. The end goal is to ensure that these individuals become self-sufficient, fully participating members of society. The City of Toronto is receiving over $86,000,000 in funding over five years to support projects in the community that prevent and reduce homelessness. http://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/harper-government-invests-in-housing-first-homelessness-initiatives-in-toronto-516887781.html Edited by campy, Jan 13 2016, 11:54 AM.



FuzzyO	Jan 13 2016, 12:14 PM Post #54
Posts: 16,968 Group: Administration Member #710 Joined: March 30, 2010	campy Jan 13 2016, 11:49 AM FuzzyO Jan 12 2016, 09:32 AM Quoting limited to 2 levels deep I doubt it. There is a shortage of engineers, doctors, and lawyers, at least in Canada. Why can't we ever talk REALITY.? Do you mean to say that immigrant engineers, doctors and lawyers are not driving cabs? I can indtroduce you to a couple of MDs who are working as orderlies. I can also introduce you to a nurse from Germany who was told that Canada needed her and her abilities would be welcome only to find once she arrived that her credentials are not recognized here. Same thing with her engineer father.



campy	Jan 13 2016, 12:19 PM Post #55
Handyman Extraordinaire Posts: 28,720 Group: no politics Member #204 Joined: February 2, 2006	FuzzyO Jan 13 2016, 12:14 PM campy Jan 13 2016, 11:49 AM Quoting limited to 2 levels deep Do you mean to say that immigrant engineers, doctors and lawyers are not driving cabs? I can indtroduce you to a couple of MDs who are working as orderlies. I can also introduce you to a nurse from Germany who was told that Canada needed her and her abilities would be welcome only to find once she arrived that her credentials are not recognized here. Same thing with her engineer father. Immigrants with degrees have not been licensed in Canada. Why do you do that? Why do you confuse the issue? I'm saying there is a shortage of doctors. So an immigrant doctor can't practice. There is still a shortage isn't there? Aaaaaargh!



friendshipgal	Jan 13 2016, 12:31 PM Post #56
Guess everyone wants their own Trudashians Posts: 12,815 Group: Member Member #241 Joined: February 12, 2006	campy Jan 13 2016, 12:19 PM Why do you do that? Why do you confuse the issue? I'm saying there is a shortage of doctors. So an immigrant doctor can't practice. There is still a shortage isn't there? Aaaaaargh! Immigrant doctors usually cannot practice because their qualifications are not equal to our standards or they are just waiting to have their medical license validated which can take a long time. Another problem is for them to get a residency as there are many Canadian students waiting. Maybe we should be asking how do we open up more residency positions. Ontario did make some changes to improve the situation.



campy	Jan 13 2016, 12:34 PM Post #57
Handyman Extraordinaire Posts: 28,720 Group: no politics Member #204 Joined: February 2, 2006	friendshipgal Jan 13 2016, 12:31 PM campy Jan 13 2016, 12:19 PM Why do you do that? Why do you confuse the issue? I'm saying there is a shortage of doctors. So an immigrant doctor can't practice. There is still a shortage isn't there? Aaaaaargh! Immigrant doctors usually cannot practice because their qualifications are not equal to our standards or they are just waiting to have their medical license validated which can take a long time. Another problem is for them to get a residency as there are many Canadian students waiting. Maybe we should be asking how do we open up more residency positions. Ontario did make some changes to improve the situation. The real reason? Canadian doctors are protecting their ass. Same as other professions. Competition is not welcome.



Darcie	Jan 13 2016, 12:51 PM Post #58
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	This is an old story Fuzzy, there should be upgrading classes in the professions, but then the government who funds healthcare has to have the money for the internships and to hire more doctors and medical personnel. This is not the case, the federal government funding of health care to the provinces has not kept pace with the needs out there. We have had lists of professions needed in immigration and they get browning points for this, but there is no room for them when they get here. We are inundated with home grown engineers and some with masters are working in restaurants. Law is also another where we have too many of as well as dentists. I understand we need machinists, also I know of refugees from Bosnia who have very successful renovation companies, they do excellent work for a reasonable price.



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