Trudeau's Promise to Pull Fighters Out of the War on Terror

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Trudeau's Promise to Pull Fighters Out of the War on Terror; becoming a serious political liability
Topic Started: Jan 24 2016, 05:13 AM (169 Views)
friendshipgal	Jan 24 2016, 05:13 AM Post #1
Guess everyone wants their own Trudashians Posts: 12,815 Group: Member Member #241 Joined: February 12, 2006	Trudeau's promise to pull our fighter planes maybe backfiring. The Liberals have been arguing for years that Hezbollah is not really a terrorist organization. The influx of Syrian 'refugees' may include more people with terrorist leanings or links adding to those already here. Whether Trudeau wants to admit it or not, we are already at war with terrorists on Canadian soil. The colossal waste of time and money spent in attending the World Economic Forum in Davos, is one example of Trudeau's worldview. Spending time in Switzerland yakking with Melinda Gates about the need to re-engineer our society to achieve gender parity is not useful to the sound governance of Canada. To those who ask how is it possible that someone living in Canada can be lured into supporting terrorists, visit university campuses where deranged hatred of white people and western democracies is a badge of honour. Apparently we are the cause of all the ills of the undeveloped world. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/isis-bombing-cf-18s-trudeau-milewskie-1.3416472 Justin Trudeau is heading back from Davos — and he may soon wish he'd stayed. Quote: As the brand-new prime minister faces a new session of Parliament, he must confront a growing sense that, on one of his signature promises, his time is already up. It's not about the refugees or the budget. As those promises have proven flexible, Canadians have shrugged. Nobody's calling for Trudeau's head because the Syrian refugees didn't all get here on time. Husband of Burkina Faso victim says he hung up on Trudeau But Canada's military allies, the Conservative opposition and a restive punditocracy all seem to have lost patience with Trudeau's policy — or the lack of any policy — in Iraq. They have still not heard a coherent explanation of why the Liberals want to pull Canada's six CF-18 fighters out of the war on the so-called Islamic State. Nor have they heard what the government will do instead. That Trudeau's promise is becoming a serious political liability was evident in the wrenching phone calls he had to make to the families of six Canadians killed in last week's terrorist attack in Burkina Faso. The husband of one victim hung up on him. The wife of another said she was "ashamed" of the plan to withdraw the fighter planes. cont..



Dialtone	Jan 24 2016, 05:28 AM Post #2
Gold Star Member Posts: 7,190 Group: Member Member #721 Joined: April 1, 2010	You have to like Rex Murphy, he always says it the way it is. http://www.cbc.ca/player/play/2682364522/ Edited by Dialtone, Jan 24 2016, 05:29 AM.



friendshipgal	Jan 24 2016, 09:31 AM Post #3
Guess everyone wants their own Trudashians Posts: 12,815 Group: Member Member #241 Joined: February 12, 2006	Interesting that the Liberals generally accused Harper of making foreign policy decisions for domestic/political gain - a point Harper rightly disputed while pointing out there is more electoral gain from the left, to be made for taking the opposite position. That is defending Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state, aggressively confronting terrorism, and taking a hard line against Iran's nuclear ambitions. IMO the Liberals were simply projecting onto us their own calculated decision making, reinforced by a Liberal strategist quoted at the end of this story who makes it quite clear that Trudeau's Liberals aim to take a more pro-Palestinian, pro-Iran policy in the Middle East - after they ensure that Jewish voters are repatriated to the Canadian Liberal Party. In line with this thinking, PM Trudeau knows well that his father’s Liberal gov’t reinforced and made it clear to new Canadians that Liberals were responsible for bringing them to Canada - a continuing Liberal electoral benefit. This is exactly why Trudeau Jr. has ensured a strong visual presence greeting the first Syrian refugees to Canada. These photo ops along with the many selfies will outlast the direct political context for these photo ops while serving he hopes, to cement new Canadians in the Liberal vote coalition for another generation. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/ottawa-brings-fresh-vibe-to-festering-age-old-issues-in-middle-east/article28360460/ But moves in this area will come slowly, a senior Liberal adviser explained. “First we want to make sure we’ve got the Jewish vote back,” he said



Darcie	Jan 24 2016, 09:56 AM Post #4
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	Oh My, A topic where I see no posts. How refreshing.



campy	Jan 24 2016, 10:08 AM Post #5
Handyman Extraordinaire Posts: 28,720 Group: no politics Member #204 Joined: February 2, 2006	Darcie Jan 24 2016, 09:56 AM Oh My, A topic where I see no posts. How refreshing. What is your point? I see three posts now. laugh123



friendshipgal	Jan 24 2016, 10:57 AM Post #6
Guess everyone wants their own Trudashians Posts: 12,815 Group: Member Member #241 Joined: February 12, 2006	campy Jan 24 2016, 10:08 AM Darcie Jan 24 2016, 09:56 AM Oh My, A topic where I see no posts. How refreshing. What is your point? I see three posts now. laugh123 I think she means that she has anyone she disagrees with on ignore, so she doesn't have to read opposing opinions and so on.



Bitsy	Jan 24 2016, 11:05 AM Post #7
Veteran Member Posts: 31,383 Group: Member Member #267 Joined: March 11, 2006	friendshipgal Jan 24 2016, 10:57 AM campy Jan 24 2016, 10:08 AM Quoting limited to 2 levels deep I think she means that she has anyone she disagrees with on ignore, so she doesn't have to read opposing opinions and so on. :sign10: pot/kettle



Durgan	Jan 24 2016, 11:21 AM Post #8
Veteran Member Posts: 13,273 Group: Gardening Guru Member #720 Joined: March 31, 2010	Harper and the CPC are dead meat. They were buried in the election. Let them disappear and forget them. May their recovery be long and tedious, if ever. Nitpicking Trudeau has no meaning as yet. He hasn't done anything to date except have cute photo ops.



Bitsy	Jan 24 2016, 11:22 AM Post #9
Veteran Member Posts: 31,383 Group: Member Member #267 Joined: March 11, 2006	friendshipgal Jan 24 2016, 09:31 AM Interesting that the Liberals generally accused Harper of making foreign policy decisions for domestic/political gain - a point Harper rightly disputed while pointing out there is more electoral gain from the left, to be made for taking the opposite position. That is defending Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state, aggressively confronting terrorism, and taking a hard line against Iran's nuclear ambitions. IMO, from what I have read the criticism that Harper’s foreign policy decisions were made with political gain in mind was spot on. Harper is the typical neo-conservative, “ assertive promotion of democracy and United States national interest in international affairs including through military means.” At one time, Canada was a legitimate broker in thr world; Harper’s ideologies changed all that. I would think most Canadians would be glad to see Canada swing the pendulum back to the middle. Quote: IMO the Liberals were simply projecting onto us their own calculated decision making, reinforced by a Liberal strategist quoted at the end of this story who makes it quite clear that Trudeau's Liberals aim to take a more pro-Palestinian, pro-Iran policy in the Middle East - after they ensure that Jewish voters are repatriated to the Canadian Liberal Party. In line with this thinking, PM Trudeau knows well that his father’s Liberal gov’t reinforced and made it clear to new Canadians that Liberals were responsible for bringing them to Canada - a continuing Liberal electoral benefit. This is exactly why Trudeau Jr. has ensured a strong visual presence greeting the first Syrian refugees to Canada. These photo ops along with the many selfies will outlast the direct political context for these photo ops while serving he hopes, to cement new Canadians in the Liberal vote coalition for another generation. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/ottawa-brings-fresh-vibe-to-festering-age-old-issues-in-middle-east/article28360460/ From the article, In addition, I see this as a very good thing. Of course, multilateral diplomacy runs contrary to the neo-con ideology. In an “Open Letter to the Next Prime Minister,” published seven months before Mr. Trudeau’s election, Mr. Paris, now the Prime Minister’s foreign policy adviser, urged that the policy emphasis be on East Asia, as well as on the United States. But, above all, he wrote, Canada should return to multilateral diplomacy, an approach played down during the Harper years, in order to better achieve common objectives with our allies. Quote: But moves in this area will come slowly, a senior Liberal adviser explained. “First we want to make sure we’ve got the Jewish vote back,” he said i do not like this ill-advised comment but in fairness, the context within which it was said might prove otherwise.



campy	Jan 24 2016, 11:32 AM Post #10
Handyman Extraordinaire Posts: 28,720 Group: no politics Member #204 Joined: February 2, 2006	Durgan Jan 24 2016, 11:21 AM Harper and the CPC are dead meat. They were buried in the election. Let them disappear and forget them. May their recovery be long and tedious, if ever. Nitpicking Trudeau has no meaning as yet. He hasn't done anything to date except have cute photo ops. So you are saying the best is yet to come? The Liberals were buried in the last election Durgan. Their comeback should be considered the miracle of the century. Can you imagine running on legalizing pot and winning? What fools these mortals be.



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