Syrian refugee family gets 1st taste of Canada: Timbits and a double-double

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Syrian refugee family gets 1st taste of Canada: Timbits and a double-double
Topic Started: Feb 11 2016, 04:12 PM (518 Views)
Darcie	Feb 11 2016, 04:12 PM Post #1
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	Quote: CBC first met the Gulesarian family when they were living in a run-down apartment block in Beirut in early December 2015. At the time, the refugees from Aleppo, Syria, had been living in Lebanon for three years and were anxious to get to Canada before the new year. In Lebanon, the family of five had no legal standing, were not able to work or attend school and faced discrimination. The family has a cousin in Toronto and was able to obtain a combination of private and government sponsorship to come to Canada. The Gulesarians' private sponsors are a group of teachers, students and parents from Dewson Street Public School in Toronto's west end. The group formed out of a parent's initiative to teach students and the community about the plight of refugees and encourage them to be global citizens and lend a helping hand. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/syrian-refugees-tim-hortons-1.3438880 So nice to see us being able to be Canadian again.



margrace	Feb 12 2016, 03:23 AM Post #2
Gold Star Member Posts: 5,367 Group: Member Member #723 Joined: April 1, 2010	Yes Darcie I agree, coming from a family that was badly treated by rather nasty people I can understand these people and my people were Irish Catholics god forbid



Alli	Feb 12 2016, 07:30 AM Post #3
Mistress, House of Cats Posts: 4,732 Group: Member Member #711 Joined: March 30, 2010	I guess they must now feel like bona fide Canadians....wonder if it was double double and a cruller? ohmy 03 Then reading the link there are those who are currently living in a motel. I dunno would I rather be in a motel have a warm bed an enclosed bathroom lights .. Unfortunately they have to stay a little longer than the few days as was originally thought. Complaints are being levied wanting to go back to the refugee camp they left. You can't be expected to be acclimated to new surroundings immediately. I lived in a motel for 2 years because there wasn't anything affordable. No where to cook, store food living on things you normally wouldn't It's not the ideal situation but you figure out how it can work for you. I'm not saying don't be grateful but a little patience goes a long way...Then on the flip side you can't just dump people in a place so unknown to them feeling scared to begin with expecting them to cope. If I don't get all warm & fuzzy over a Tim Horton's visit, that was probably the last thing they needed...



Darcie	Feb 12 2016, 09:56 AM Post #4
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	Just nice to see that Canadians can now have differing opinions as to what is nice to do for someone else without being looked upon as being 'less than'. Different atmosphere altogether.



Alli	Feb 12 2016, 12:12 PM Post #5
Mistress, House of Cats Posts: 4,732 Group: Member Member #711 Joined: March 30, 2010	Less than what Darcie? Did you read all the relating links? There is preferential treatment in regards to the refugees who arrived after the election The first group have received bills to pay for their flights to Canada some are now 600 dollars in debt and climbing while the recent refugees are not required to pay back.. This will create bad feelings between the groups when they arrived from the same places with similar stories and loss. Easy to see the ineptitude on the Governments side who are accountable for the debacle taking place. Instead of silly photo ops at Tim Hortons (which by the way is no longer Canadian owned) they should concentrate more with accommodations issues expenses getting the people settled. kids in school ,vaccinated Quote: Just nice to see that Canadians can now have differing opinions as to what is nice to do for someone else without being looked upon as being 'less than'. Be nice but set your priorities straight...



Darcie	Feb 12 2016, 01:07 PM Post #6
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	Alli, even when the Vietnam refugees came they had to pay. UNHCR knew about it, but what was bad then was that Canada would not let them fly out of the country, even to meet long lost family unless their debt was paid up. I remember fighting for a Vietnamese guy who's family was found in France and they would not let him go at the time. They finally allowed him to go.



Darcie	Feb 12 2016, 01:08 PM Post #7
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	Alli Feb 12 2016, 12:12 PM Less than what Darcie? Did you read all the relating links? There is preferential treatment in regards to the refugees who arrived after the election The first group have received bills to pay for their flights to Canada some are now 600 dollars in debt and climbing while the recent refugees are not required to pay back.. This will create bad feelings between the groups when they arrived from the same places with similar stories and loss. Easy to see the ineptitude on the Governments side who are accountable for the debacle taking place. Instead of silly photo ops at Tim Hortons (which by the way is no longer Canadian owned) they should concentrate more with accommodations issues expenses getting the people settled. kids in school ,vaccinated Quote: Just nice to see that Canadians can now have differing opinions as to what is nice to do for someone else without being looked upon as being 'less than'. Be nice but set your priorities straight... Priorities are subjective



Darcie	Feb 12 2016, 01:13 PM Post #8
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	If one always compares then I guess I should really be upset with the younger generation who have access to daycare as this was not available to me as a working mother of small under school age children. Times change and we have to accept that some people have it better than we do when it comes to government rulings.



FuzzyO	Feb 12 2016, 01:36 PM Post #9
Posts: 16,968 Group: Administration Member #710 Joined: March 30, 2010	I think if a sponsoring group wanta to take "their" refugees to Timmy's that's OK.



friendshipgal	Feb 13 2016, 05:07 AM Post #10
Guess everyone wants their own Trudashians Posts: 12,815 Group: Member Member #241 Joined: February 12, 2006	We now have a two tier refugee system in that the Syrian refugees do not have to repay any loans to the gov�t. Surely it is a small price to pay for freedom, health care and support systems. I also understand that they are loaned up to $10,000 to help get settled which I believe has also been waived. The gov�t has been asking people for donations and jobs along with various medical people making house calls at no cost. Free dental care as well as being housed and fed in hotels, so again, a two tier system. No doubt there is or will be queue jumping for jobs and low cost housing again resulting in a further continuation of a two tier system which seems to be bypassing anyone else in need. I would think refugees who came here before Nov. 4th are pretty upset, not to mention other groups who are on long wait lists for housing etc. Considering the gov�t is waiving the language requirements for citizenship they could save thousands if not millions of dollars on language classes as they are not needed now.



Dialtone	Feb 13 2016, 06:09 AM Post #11
Gold Star Member Posts: 7,190 Group: Member Member #721 Joined: April 1, 2010	In 2015 when Trudeau announced his ill thought out plan of 25,000 refugees by the end of the year, many military people were told to get out of their houses and barracks to make way for the influx of refugees. Most of the housing on the bases still hasn't been used, and our soldiers are still being told to stay out until the allotted number of refugees has arrived.. just in case they need more room. Talk about an unfair and ridiculous situation, our soldiers can go and risk their lives fighting their wars for them, and also have to get out of their homes here in Canada so the refugees don't go without. But, John McCallum keeps smiling like a skunk eating bumble bees with every photo op. Edited by Dialtone, Feb 13 2016, 06:12 AM.



Alli	Feb 14 2016, 07:09 AM Post #12
Mistress, House of Cats Posts: 4,732 Group: Member Member #711 Joined: March 30, 2010	Quote: Times change and we have to accept that some people have it better than we do when it comes to government rulings. Darcie what you have wrote surprises me, You vehemently argue for equality rights for everyone , yet the above indicates the opposite... The first group of refugees will be in enormous debt many already are being billed having being sent to credit collection agencies ..there goes their potential to establish credit ...I would think that since you worked with various organizations in many capacities you would be less accepting of what is a double standard There shouldn't be this exclusion.. In the long term this is liable to instigate potential problems that were not for seen but like that elephant always in the room.....I don't mean only for the Syrians , what of the next global refugee crisis? There's bound to be one will the government be forgiving of ALL debts or just some that put us (Canada) in a positive light. A dangerous precident has being set..... Edited by Alli, Feb 14 2016, 07:27 AM.



swing	Feb 14 2016, 05:32 PM Post #13
swing Posts: 9,979 Group: Member Member #359 Joined: August 18, 2006	In 2015 when Trudeau announced his ill thought out plan of 25,000 refugees by the end of the year, many military people were told to get out of their houses and barracks to make way for the influx of refugees. Most of the housing on the bases still hasn't been used, and our soldiers are still being told to stay out until the allotted number of refugees has arrived.. just in case they need more room. Talk about an unfair and ridiculous situation, our soldiers can go and risk their lives fighting their wars for them, and also have to get out of their homes here in Canada so the refugees don't go without. But, John McCallum keeps smiling like a skunk eating bumble bees with every photo op. Totally and utterly ridiculous!



Olive Oil	Feb 14 2016, 08:00 PM Post #14
Gold Star Member Posts: 4,747 Group: Member Member #785 Joined: June 10, 2010	The reports of soldiers losing housing are said to be rumours only. There is much misinformation and nasty rumors out there. I think its nice to see a government that smiles. I rather like McCallum and applaud this governments efforts.



goldengal	Feb 14 2016, 11:44 PM Post #15
Mistress, House of Dogs Posts: 11,674 Group: Member Member #715 Joined: March 31, 2010	I m not sure if any soldiers lost housing due to the refugees, but it was planned from early days to house refugees at military sites in Ontario and Quebec. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/refugees-temporary-military-housing-quebec-ontario-1.3326462 Take care, Pat



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