Syrian refugee family gets 1st taste of Canada: Timbits and a double-double

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Syrian refugee family gets 1st taste of Canada: Timbits and a double-double
Topic Started: Feb 11 2016, 04:12 PM (519 Views)
Darcie	Feb 11 2016, 04:12 PM Post #1
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	Quote: CBC first met the Gulesarian family when they were living in a run-down apartment block in Beirut in early December 2015. At the time, the refugees from Aleppo, Syria, had been living in Lebanon for three years and were anxious to get to Canada before the new year. In Lebanon, the family of five had no legal standing, were not able to work or attend school and faced discrimination. The family has a cousin in Toronto and was able to obtain a combination of private and government sponsorship to come to Canada. The Gulesarians' private sponsors are a group of teachers, students and parents from Dewson Street Public School in Toronto's west end. The group formed out of a parent's initiative to teach students and the community about the plight of refugees and encourage them to be global citizens and lend a helping hand. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/syrian-refugees-tim-hortons-1.3438880 So nice to see us being able to be Canadian again.

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Darcie	Feb 15 2016, 01:32 AM Post #16
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	Quote: Darcie what you have wrote surprises me, You vehemently argue for equality rights for everyone , yet the above indicates the opposite... The first group of refugees will be in enormous debt many already are being billed having being sent to credit collection agencies ..there goes their potential to establish credit ...I would think that since you worked with various organizations in many capacities you would be less accepting of what is a double standard There shouldn't be this exclusion.. In the long term this is liable to instigate potential problems that were not for seen but like that elephant always in the room.....I don't mean only for the Syrians , what of the next global refugee crisis? There's bound to be one will the government be forgiving of ALL debts or just some that put us (Canada) in a positive light. A dangerous precident has being set..... Whatever gave you the idea that I agreed with refugees having to repay the Canadian government? I merely was explaining that there are many situations that change where there are differences between a group of people at any given time. Most changes are not made retroactive. I denounced the Canadian Government in public in Geneva about this practice during the Vietnam refugee influx. I really will not assume the story about the housing until I have a few links about this - this rumour did come out a while ago and I could not find anything about this that appeared to corroborate this gossip. Edited by Darcie, Feb 15 2016, 01:37 AM.



friendshipgal	Feb 15 2016, 04:36 AM Post #17
Guess everyone wants their own Trudashians Posts: 12,815 Group: Member Member #241 Joined: February 12, 2006	Darcie Feb 15 2016, 01:32 AM .................... I really will not assume the story about the housing until I have a few links about this - this rumour did come out a while ago and I could not find anything about this that appeared to corroborate this gossip. You don't have to assume anything about housing, motels, and barracks as it's been well documented and posted here earlier.. http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/01/08/red-cross-gears-up-to-house-syrian-refugees-at-military-bases-in-coming-weeks_n_8940872.html Darcie I denounced the Canadian Government in public in Geneva about this practice during the Vietnam refugee influx. Interesting, in what capacity where you acting in at this Geneva Convention or meeting when you denounced this practice? Edited by friendshipgal, Feb 15 2016, 04:37 AM.



Dialtone	Feb 15 2016, 05:00 AM Post #18
Gold Star Member Posts: 7,190 Group: Member Member #721 Joined: April 1, 2010	Soldiers being kicked out of their own housing so refugees can live in them.... it's not rumour or innuendo as some seem to want to imply here. This is all cold comfort for the military members who were given short notice to vacate their housing back in November, as the Sun first revealed. They still won't be allowed back in their premises, as it remains possible the government will call on them to house refugees. "There were some people moved from various locations to free up continuous quarters," Edelson explained. "But when people may be given the green light to move back, that would require the end of the operation." http://www.torontosun.com/2016/02/10/military-bases-no-longer-to-house-massive-refugee-influx-but-soldiers-cant-return-just-yet



Dialtone	Feb 15 2016, 05:09 AM Post #19
Gold Star Member Posts: 7,190 Group: Member Member #721 Joined: April 1, 2010	Darcie Feb 15 2016, 01:32 AM I denounced the Canadian Government in public in Geneva about this practice during the Vietnam refugee influx. Please tell us more, when was this and which government did you denounce ? I don't know about anyone else, but I wasn't aware your views were made worldwide from the podium in Geneva.



Olive Oil	Feb 15 2016, 05:27 AM Post #20
Gold Star Member Posts: 4,747 Group: Member Member #785 Joined: June 10, 2010	Dialtone Feb 15 2016, 05:00 AM "There were some people moved from various locations to free up continuous quarters," Edelson explained. "But when people may be given the green light to move back, that would require the end of the operation." [/i] http://www.torontosun.com/2016/02/10/military-bases-no-longer-to-house-massive-refugee-influx-but-soldiers-cant-return-just-yet Well if it's in the Sun , it has to be true. This newspaper chain is the dregs of journalism and loves to wallow in half truths, spite, and misinformation.



Dialtone	Feb 15 2016, 05:34 AM Post #21
Gold Star Member Posts: 7,190 Group: Member Member #721 Joined: April 1, 2010	Olive Oil Feb 15 2016, 05:27 AM Dialtone Feb 15 2016, 05:00 AM "There were some people moved from various locations to free up continuous quarters," Edelson explained. "But when people may be given the green light to move back, that would require the end of the operation." [/i] http://www.torontosun.com/2016/02/10/military-bases-no-longer-to-house-massive-refugee-influx-but-soldiers-cant-return-just-yet Well if it's in the Sun , it has to be true. This newspaper chain is the dregs of journalism and loves to wallow in half truths, spite, and misinformation. But your views and opinions should be taken at face value ? The typical response here, "it's the wrong news source but mine are always OK". Get serious OO, we might have to get Popeye to have a word with you. biggrin 04



Darcie	Feb 15 2016, 09:05 AM Post #22
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	Dialtone Feb 15 2016, 05:09 AM Darcie Feb 15 2016, 01:32 AM I denounced the Canadian Government in public in Geneva about this practice during the Vietnam refugee influx. Please tell us more, when was this and which government did you denounce ? I don't know about anyone else, but I wasn't aware your views were made worldwide from the podium in Geneva. In a meeting of UNHCR in an answer to a question of the delegate from Sweden, sometimes in 1980 I think. Does this satisfy your curiosity? laugh123



Darcie	Feb 15 2016, 09:06 AM Post #23
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	Dialtone Feb 15 2016, 05:34 AM Olive Oil Feb 15 2016, 05:27 AM Quoting limited to 2 levels deep[/i] http://www.torontosun.com/2016/02/10/military-bases-no-longer-to-house-massive-refugee-influx-but-soldiers-cant-return-just-yet But your views and opinions should be taken at face value ? The typical response here, "it's the wrong news source but mine are always OK". Get serious OO, we might have to get Popeye to have a word with you. biggrin 04 And of course your views of posters are always right. :beer:



Dialtone	Feb 15 2016, 09:43 AM Post #24
Gold Star Member Posts: 7,190 Group: Member Member #721 Joined: April 1, 2010	Darcie Feb 15 2016, 09:06 AM And of course your views of posters are always right. :beer: I'm sometimes right and I'm sometimes wrong, just like everyone else on this board. biggrin 04 And yes, your reply to my other query satisfies my curiosity. Thanks.



Olive Oil	Feb 15 2016, 09:50 AM Post #25
Gold Star Member Posts: 4,747 Group: Member Member #785 Joined: June 10, 2010	So Redial, your sources and opinions are to be taken as gospel? It works both ways. And maybe it's common for Conservative woman to look to a man for advice but not so much for most of us. laugh123 Here is another Sun source that asserts a different opinion. It's from the Sun so surely it must be right. 102 http://www.ottawasun.com/2015/11/19/dnd-says-its-not-booting-soldiers-from-homes-to-make-way-for-syrian-refugees Edited by Olive Oil, Feb 15 2016, 09:53 AM.



margrace	Feb 15 2016, 09:58 AM Post #26
Gold Star Member Posts: 5,367 Group: Member Member #723 Joined: April 1, 2010	Where do these people come from. They make outlandish statement about everything not just the refugees. Then they go home and laugh at the stupid people who listened to them. It always horrify me when I hear a person going on a bout a situation they know nothing about and spreading things. We all need to double check our sources.



Dialtone	Feb 15 2016, 10:09 AM Post #27
Gold Star Member Posts: 7,190 Group: Member Member #721 Joined: April 1, 2010	Olive Oil Feb 15 2016, 09:50 AM So Redial, your sources and opinions are to be taken as gospel? It works both ways. And maybe it's common for Conservative woman to look to a man for advice but not so much for most of us. laugh123 Here is another Sun source that asserts a different opinion. It's from the Sun so surely it must be right. 102 http://www.ottawasun.com/2015/11/19/dnd-says-its-not-booting-soldiers-from-homes-to-make-way-for-syrian-refugees So Canola Oil, the source is probably correct for the time it was published last year, but since you want to bring up the old news of Nov 19 2015, here's one a few days later from a much more credible (in your eyes) news source. Good thing our soldiers and armed forces do what they are told with little complaint or fanfare, unlike most of the general public who bellyache over the slightest inconvenience. Soldiers and military personnel at a Kingston, Ont. base are being asked to clear their barracks to make room for an early wave of Syrian refugees arriving in just over a week, CTV News has learned. Multiple residences at CFB Kingston are being cleared for Nov. 30 to house the refugees, according to an internal memo obtained by CTV News. The orders will also affect some officer cadets attending the Royal Military College, many of whom are nearing exams. http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/troops-clearing-space-at-cfb-kingston-for-syrian-refugees-1.2670111



Dialtone	Feb 15 2016, 10:11 AM Post #28
Gold Star Member Posts: 7,190 Group: Member Member #721 Joined: April 1, 2010	margrace Feb 15 2016, 09:58 AM Where do these people come from. They make outlandish statement about everything not just the refugees. Then they go home and laugh at the stupid people who listened to them. It always horrify me when I hear a person going on a bout a situation they know nothing about and spreading things. We all need to double check our sources. If you are referring to me Margrace, I come from the Muskokas in Ontario, how about you ? Are you an expert on the situation or just want to be heard ?



friendshipgal	Feb 15 2016, 02:25 PM Post #29
Guess everyone wants their own Trudashians Posts: 12,815 Group: Member Member #241 Joined: February 12, 2006	Olive Oil Feb 15 2016, 05:27 AM Dialtone Feb 15 2016, 05:00 AM "There were some people moved from various locations to free up continuous quarters," Edelson explained. "But when people may be given the green light to move back, that would require the end of the operation." [/i] http://www.torontosun.com/2016/02/10/military-bases-no-longer-to-house-massive-refugee-influx-but-soldiers-cant-return-just-yet Well if it's in the Sun , it has to be true. This newspaper chain is the dregs of journalism and loves to wallow in half truths, spite, and misinformation. Too bad you can't verify it instead of putting down a source. The Sun is as credible, if not more than the CBC which often twist information or omits it. It kinda sounds like you are wallowing in your own spite, but DT has provided a more current link than the CBC and Huffington Post links I was going to post here.



friendshipgal	Feb 15 2016, 02:27 PM Post #30
Guess everyone wants their own Trudashians Posts: 12,815 Group: Member Member #241 Joined: February 12, 2006	margrace Feb 15 2016, 09:58 AM Where do these people come from. They make outlandish statement about everything not just the refugees. Then they go home and laugh at the stupid people who listened to them. It always horrify me when I hear a person going on a bout a situation they know nothing about and spreading things. We all need to double check our sources. Speaking for myself I come from Toronto but the 'outlandish statements' about refugees are verified, not my fault if you don't like them. Actually, I've seen a lot more outlandish statements on this site than many others, so yeah... do check your sources.



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