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| Deleted User | Feb 19 2016, 03:04 AM Post #1 |
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I was surprised to read this article this morning. http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/news/one-third-of-hot-drinks-in-high-street-chains-as-sugary-as-coca-cola-a6877866.html |
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| Durgan | Feb 20 2016, 04:36 AM Post #31 |
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I gave stevia a good shake down over a period of time. I grew eight plants. A weak plant hard to grow. It has a sweet effect, but absolutely without any satisfaction. If I m not mistaken the commercial interests have adulterated the product. Further, why give up one nefarious product and substitute another probably just as harmful if not worse? Edited by Durgan, Feb 20 2016, 04:38 AM.
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| agate | Feb 20 2016, 04:42 AM Post #32 |
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Right on!!! I enjoy my woohoo.gif on the weekend and I am not giving it up. |
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| FuzzyO | Feb 20 2016, 04:46 AM Post #33 |
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I haven't knowingly tried stevia or agave nectar, but I understood them to be the sweeteners that are OK to use. |
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| margrace | Feb 20 2016, 05:44 AM Post #34 |
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These discussions are amazing. My uncle died of diabetes, my brother died of diabetes, my nephew wears an insulin pump, 2 of my cousins have diabetes and another cousin died of diebetes. Just the thought of items like coca cola make me sick to my stomach and just a few mouthfuls is awful Insulin is great but it too can hurt your body. Yes we do need sugar in moderation but there is lots in the ordinary foods we eat that we don't need any of the awful white stuff. If you buy fast foods then you are courting trouble. Do you not hear what is happening to the natives, do you not read the stats on the plague of diabetes. |
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| angora | Feb 20 2016, 06:16 AM Post #35 |
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If all those relatives had/have diabetes, you probably will too. My mother developed it at 80. I have 4 other relatives who have/had it on one side of my family and 2 on the other side. I was pretty sure I would develop it too and I did. I am not, was not overweight or sedentary. The research is clear that there is a genetic cause for diabetes. As with most diseases, science is discovering as they learn more about genetics, that most diseases have a strong tendency to run in families. Even for adopted children and in fact, several studies have been done on adopted twins that show the hereditary component for disease and for temperament. I have taken insulin for about 10 years now and I just had a thorough check up by my diabetes specialist who told me I was a very healthy 76 year old woman with no sign of damage to my heart, lungs, kidneys or liver. Two of my family members who had diabetes, one lived to be 94 and another one is still alive at 94. Too much doom saying is bad for your health. |
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| Deleted User | Feb 20 2016, 09:07 AM Post #36 |
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I agree margrace. I would have to be without water before I would drink it now that I am away from stuff like that. Years ago they had a coca cola syrup in the drug store for an upset stomach. I have heard about the natives with diabetes. They eat a lot of banic. It turns right to sugar. |
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| Darcie | Feb 20 2016, 09:48 AM Post #37 |
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I haven't had soft drink for so long, if I had to have one it would be Gingerale. If I am thirsty I drink water, it quenches my thirst. I have a coffee in the morning and one mid afternoon, black, no sugar. I will sometimes have tea also no cream or sugar. I have had 2 kilos of sugar for over one year, bought it for Christmas 2014, still have at least half left. I do have a few recipes that use it but I do try to substitute honey or molasses. It isn't that I have tried to do with no sugar, it is just that I don't particularly like it, if I have a soda of some sort it sort of feels like I have to grind my teeth. This is not to say that once in a blue moon I don't like to have something sweet, I do make the occasional GF apple pie, I do have waffles and pancakes with maple syrup, just don't like regular sugar. |
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| Durgan | Feb 20 2016, 10:16 AM Post #38 |
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There is no good sugar; honey, molasses, corn syrup, all those packaged substitutes,white sugar, brown sugar added to food must be viewed with cognizance. All soft drinks are pure junk food to be imbibed in rarely. Most commercial juices are almost in the same category. Commercial bakery bread is about the same. That said. We have access to the best food in history. All it takes is a bit of fun preparation. I actually work at it. For better or worse. |
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| FuzzyO | Feb 20 2016, 11:32 AM Post #39 |
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Do you mean bannock Mouse? It's just a type of bread, originally Scottish. |
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| Deleted User | Feb 20 2016, 01:33 PM Post #40 |
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Native fried bread. Banic Banic bread is a Native American bread made with household staple ingredients. The bread is crisp and chewy and can be served warm or cold. It makes an excellent accompaniment for any dinner, or it can serve as a wrap bread for sandwiches. Banic bread is also known as Indian fry bread, and it's so simple to make it that you can make it fresh with any meal without much extra effort. http://www.ehow.com/how_4910170_make-banic-bread.html aka Bannock Bannock Bannock, a quick biscuit–type bread, is a specialty of aboriginal cooks throughout North America, including in Nunavut. For the fluffiest results, toss the ingredients together as few times as possible. When cooking, use two spatulas to turn – one to lift and the other to support – to keep the hot oil from splashing. Enjoy bannock with tea, or serve with soup or stew to soak up the juice. http://www.canadianliving.com/food/bannock.php |
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| FuzzyO | Feb 20 2016, 03:59 PM Post #41 |
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Same thing, different spelling. It's interesting that pretty much every culture has a flat or fairly fat bread. It's pretty much a universal form of food. |
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| Trotsky | Feb 21 2016, 01:28 AM Post #42 |
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Like, for example, JUICING them, Durgan? You have to demonstrate that non-caloric sugar substitutes are "as harmful or worse" than sugars. These are very different molecular compounds whose only similarity is sweetness. They act in vastly different ways to mimic the sweetness of sugar. I think diet gurus dismissing them without thought, because they all have a financial ax to grins with OTHER diet schemes that do not involve caloric restriction are as dimwitted as their weight loss plans usually are. I posit that non-caloric sugar substitutes are among the very best diet aides as long as they taste good. (Stevia tastes very bad. imho, saccharine tastes even worse, the sugar alcohols, the ones ending in -ol are NOT calorie free so of only limited use, but the ones left standing like aspartame (Equal) and cyclamate (Sweeta in Canada), and acesulfame-K are excellent non-foods that successfully replace sugars and the calories in our diets to the extent we are given choice with labeling and regulation. Edited by Trotsky, Feb 21 2016, 03:32 AM.
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| blizzard | Feb 21 2016, 02:02 AM Post #43 |
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Time to research why bannock is considered a, past, staple of First Nations people as it is made with flour. It has been something I have often wondered about. |
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| Trotsky | Feb 21 2016, 02:13 AM Post #44 |
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Why the source of wonder, blizzard? Should flour and bread not be considered the "staff of life" for indigenous agricultural people? "Give us this day our daily bread." Flatbread goes pretty pretty far back into pre-history and what else is bannock? Edited by Trotsky, Feb 21 2016, 02:14 AM.
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| margrace | Feb 21 2016, 03:04 AM Post #45 |
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There are two kinds of diabetes in my family. Type 1, inherited, and type 2 diet related. When one has type 1 they usually have to take insulin every day and we know that my uncle, my brother both died from it. My brother had insulin my uncle did not. Then there is diet related type 2 diabetes. My husband has that, he is no blood relation to the ones in our family with type 1 as far as I know so far, although I have some suspicion that my first cousin who was my husbands 6th cousin may have died from type 1. Two cousins are surviving very well with type 1 but are both very careful of their diets. My husband had to spend 8 weeks in the hospital. There his diet was very controlled and they got him off the insulin and his blood sugar down to 6, previously it had been anywhere from 10 to the highest 16. When he left the hospital the Outtake committee had a meeting with us. They commented that his Blood sugar levels were very good and he was not on insulin but they also said that he probably would be back on insulin when he got home. My husband is incapable of avoiding foods that contain sugar for instance he buys muffin in the baking section of the local grocery and the first ingredient in this is sugar. His Blood sugar is now very high and one day as high as 24. He has an appointment with his doctor in several weeks and the doctor has ordered blood tests, knowing full well that he will have to put him back on insulin. Moderation in anything is not in my husbands vocabulary, he hasn't got a clue what it really is. We do not keep white sugar in the house but he buys sugar laden treats for himself such as apple crisps or whatever they are call at Timmies and eats two at a time. So yes I do believe that sugar in all forms is deadly. Even if you eat fruit only you get enough sugar to sustain your health Edited by margrace, Feb 21 2016, 03:06 AM.
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