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I loved Starbucks until now
Topic Started: Feb 19 2016, 03:04 AM (783 Views)
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I was surprised to read this article this morning.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/news/one-third-of-hot-drinks-in-high-street-chains-as-sugary-as-coca-cola-a6877866.html
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Trotsky
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margrace,
Are those his A1C numbers?
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margrace
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Trotsky Canadian numbers are much different than American numbers. I do not have the skills to figure out the difference perhaps someone else can. But Doctors in Canada like your blood sugar levels to be between 5 and 7
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Trotsky
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Okay,
I found the conversion chart:
http://www.joslin.org/info/conversion_table_for_blood_glucose_monitoring.html

Margrace,
He should have his A1C measured as well. That is a measurement of how much sugar has been incorporated into the red blood cells over a 4 or 5 week period. It doesn't not have to be done fasting and gives a pretty good picture of overall diet compliance rather than just what he ate the day before. With numbers like that 24 (432 mg./dL, <American>) he is flirting with losing his legs. His blood and urine must be like corn syrup.
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blizzard
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Time to research why bannock is considered a, past, staple of First Nations people as it is made with flour. It has been something I have often wondered about.
I didn't know that blizzard. I was at the pow wow a couple years ago and they were still serving. It isn't flat by any means (or maybe they could make it like that if they want). When they fry it, it puffs right up. .... a heart attack on a plate for sure,
Native people have a lot of diabetes, so that should be a no no for them. :beer:
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angora
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Type 2 diabetes is a disease in which your pancreas does not produce enough insulin, or your body does not properly use the insulin it makes. As a result, glucose (sugar) builds up in your blood instead of being used for energy. - See more at: http://www.diabetes.ca/diabetes-

This is from the Canadian Diabetes site. It explains what Diabetes 2 is. It is not diet related.

It can be controlled by diet, medication and insulin. Generally the problem is the body not using what little insulin it produces.

Margrace - your husband is eating incorrectly. Many to most of we diabetics do not do that. My blood sugar level is below 7 at every 3 month checkup. It is a balancing act - if you are going to indulge in something you love that is not on your list then you must compensate by cutting down on something else. Rather like life.
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angora
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Maybe the native people don't have the money or the resources for the high priced and often unavailable imported fresh fruit and veg and gluten free, sugar free foods that foodie insist is the only thing that should pass our lips.
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Yes it can be controlled by diet, cut out the sugar related items, that is what they did at the hospital
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angora
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That is simplistic Margrace. It is different for each of us but for me it is the carbs that cause a blood sugar spike. I limit pasta dishes which I love to one a week and eat only rye bread in moderation of course.

Did you read the info from the Canadian Diabetes association? It tells you the cause of type 2 diabetes.
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Bannock is still a staple with many First Nations people. There is an angel in Winnipeg called the bannock lady who serves it to those in need from the back of her truck. It's cheap and fills the belly.
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The idea is to get off the insulin, while it is a wonder drug it is also dangerous. People with type 1 cannot survive without it.

The people in the hospital had him off the insulin and his sugar was down. When he came home he once again started eating sugar stuffed food.

My brother was diagnosed with type 1 in 1953 so our family has lived with this for a long time. We never heard of type 2 diabetes until all the fast foods and sugar adatives started to come on the the market. Sugar is bad for you.
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Yes I read that information all of which I already knew, it does say that diabetes can be managed by exercise and diet and depending how serious it is insulin may not be needed
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Bannock is a Scottish bread; mom made it in a cast iron frying pan. I believe the fur traders and explorers introduced it to the native people in Canada. It's a lot like scones, but fried instead of baked. The Irish made soda bread which is a round loaf and they had potato cakes which are made of mashed potatoes, egg, rolled in oatmeal and fried - really good!
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angora
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Type 2 diabetes was known. My grandmother (my father's mother) had it. Incidentally of all my relatives with Type 2 not one has died of diabetes or diabetes related disease. Grandmother, Father,Mother, one aunt and myself all take/took insulin. My cousin who is a nurse at Sunnybrook Hosp ( teaching hospital in North York) says of all the patients she's seen in her 30 years of nursing, none of them have not progressed to needing insulin.

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Here's a link that works. Looks like everyone is different. My doc seems to think that diet can prevent type 2.

http://www.joslin.org/info/common_questions_about_type_2_diabetes.html
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Yes thanks for the info Trotsky, my husband always had his blood tested every 3 months. He always had to fast before the test, however the last time he didn't have to, now I realize that the doctor was doing that test you suggested and the paper for his next blood test has it ticked and it is random.

Like everything else I suspect that everyone's body is different and one size does not fit all. However I saw an illustration Showing a cup of mashed potatoes, a cup of white flour and a cup of sugar and it said the all had equal amounts of sugar.
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