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A huge Glug, Glug, Glug; frozen roof stack
Topic Started: Mar 9 2016, 04:46 AM (518 Views)
Trotsky
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If the apartment is locked and sealed, there is little to no air flow to draw any gases into the apartment.


DT, alas, just 5 years ago the building installed powerful roof fans for venting, thus every kitchen and bath has an opening with a powerful suction, enough to pull in air even through electrical outlets.. If I leave my vents open and close everything else I suck in cigarette smoke from my next door neighbor, presumably under the drywall. SO that suction can operate very strongly on an untrapped drain.

I guess I can hope that any sewer gases into her apartment are sucked out as quickly as they are sucked IN.

A corollary: If she is under suction and I keep my apartment vents sealed thus at neutral or even positive pressure, all air flow should be from me to the deceased her rather than the opposite.
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Well, finally got rid of the noise and the worry of the noisy drain. At first I was waiting for a spring thaw and it did disappear for a few days at a time only to return with a vengeance. This was not a small noise anymore abut quite alarming. like a pounding in the bathroom wall. The bathroom sink had also began to drain slowly.

I found a company who would go on the roof and they hooked up a hose and fed it down the stack.. At about 10 feet down there was a blockage , a nest or a dead animal. They flushed it out and my problem was solved. They also checked the sewer line and assured me all was in good shape.
They only charged me 90.00 which was a real good deal and they were such great guys.
It will take some time for me to believe the problem is gone. Some people have a snake phobia. Mine is drains. :blowup:
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All's well that ends well!

Interesting thread; glad it got bumped up as I had forgotten my resolve to insulate the "tv" in the attic.
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When the stack freezes on the roof one solution is to boil water on the stove and turn the exhaust fan on.

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Apr 30 2016, 06:28 AM
When the stack freezes on the roof one solution is to boil water on the stove and turn the exhaust fan on.

Sorry, I don't understand the rational of doing this. A frozen roof stack is due to humid sewer air eventually building up ice to freeze it shut, the exhaust fan is a totally separate avenue of escape, not connected to the sewer stack. What am I missing in my thinking ? When it's -30, the last thing I would do is boil lots of water inside the house, there's enough ice on the windows already.
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Apr 30 2016, 06:28 AM
When the stack freezes on the roof one solution is to boil water on the stove and turn the exhaust fan on.

I have never heard that one although one remedy is to pour boiling water down the roof vent. A rather dangerous task!

Why would a vent would be open to animals or debris? Does rain run down the pipe during a downpour.?
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Why would a vent would be open to animals or debris?

You need a screen on the vent. This happened to us in Ottawa with squirrels, after the vent was screened no more problems.

Daughter in Calgary has a bird's nest in her dryer vent. She started her dryer and the loud chirps were emanating. Her appliances are on the second floor, thus her DH had to purchase an extension ladder, retreive the nest and screen the vent.
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Mar 9 2016, 04:46 AM
Every time I flush the toilet, there is a loud thumping glug type sound in my shower/bath tub. It started a few weeks ago and is now very loud and rather disconcerting.
If I run hot water in the tub, it stops for a few hours. I'm quite certain it is an ice filled stack as my dd is having the same issue in her house. One remedy is to climb on the roof and pour boiling water down the vent but that's not going to happen.
I wonder why this only happened this year and not others when it's been much colder. Another reason why Spring has to come soon!
At my cottage I found a dead grackle in the toilet bowl when I went there in the spring. He was trapped in the bowl because the heavy oak toilet seat was closed.
He apparently traveled down the 3" vent pipe down to where the toilet soil pipe joined the stack.
In your case, perhaps a bird has blocked the vent and being unvented, the glug sound is the trap for the shower is being sucked dry.
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Grackle?????
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Dialtone
Apr 30 2016, 06:33 AM
campy
Apr 30 2016, 06:28 AM
When the stack freezes on the roof one solution is to boil water on the stove and turn the exhaust fan on.

Sorry, I don't understand the rational of doing this. A frozen roof stack is due to humid sewer air eventually building up ice to freeze it shut, the exhaust fan is a totally separate avenue of escape, not connected to the sewer stack. What am I missing in my thinking ? When it's -30, the last thing I would do is boil lots of water inside the house, there's enough ice on the windows already.
Correct. I was thinking of the exhaust pipe freezing on the roof portion if installed on the roof.

It's not connected to the sewer stack. My error in reading the problem.

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Apr 30 2016, 04:06 PM
Grackle?????
Like a black bird with a long pointed beak.

Common in Canada.
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Apr 30 2016, 04:06 PM
Grackle?????
Gracles are very common in this area. About the size of a small dove and always black in colour. https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Common_Grackle/id
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That grackle looks very much like a starling, wildie, with perhaps a little more luminescent blue.


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May 2 2016, 05:00 AM
That grackle looks very much like a starling, wildie, with perhaps a little more luminescent blue.


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They are similar, although they are larger!
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