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| Topic Started: May 23 2016, 04:28 AM (520 Views) | |
| Trotsky | May 23 2016, 04:28 AM Post #1 |
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Opinions solicited: I have lots of 41 year old vinyl tile (probably vinyl-asbestos tile.) Is it possible to put a layer of polyurethane over it and expect it to hold up? If, as is likely, it IS asbestos I would not even be able safely to rough it up to get the urethane to stick. So just scrubbed clean and polyurethaned. What do you think? What do you think, will it work? It would accomplish 2 things: it would create a permanent shine and it would keep the asbestos UNDER it. (Yeah, I know all about friability and asbestos abatement, $$$. Most here are covering it with laminate flooring but for me that is the last option. I hate the stuff and I don't want to toss 20 grand on solid wood floors. I have always hated wall-to-wall carpeting which looks good for a year and then like shit for the next 20. Edited by Trotsky, May 23 2016, 08:49 AM.
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| FuzzyO | May 23 2016, 05:32 AM Post #2 |
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You could go cork or bamboo! I suspect the polyurethane would be fine, but you could buy one of the very small cans and try in a hidden corner just to be sure. |
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| goldengal | May 23 2016, 05:44 AM Post #3 |
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Trotsky ...... Why do you not like laminate? I had mine done in March but one with no shine as I did not want dogs to slip. Easy care and is wood grain. Sure am glad I no longer have the wall to wall broadloom except for the bedroom as it is so much less work and easy care. Oh and it was more expensive than the hardwood on the upper floor. Take care, Pat |
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| angora | May 23 2016, 05:55 AM Post #4 |
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I hate laminate too but fortunately for me I love Berber carpeting and have put it wall to wall in the living room and tiny dining room here. It is very easy to care for and cat friendly. They bring up hair balls regularly and its really easy to clean the firm carpeting. i also like the idea of cork - easy on feet and legs. I dont really know much about bamboo except it makes really nice bed sheets. |
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| Dana | May 23 2016, 07:14 AM Post #5 |
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You might have a chance with something like this product. http://www.lenmar-coatings.com/category-listing/pro/floorcoatings |
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| haili | May 23 2016, 08:45 AM Post #6 |
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I have laminate in the bathroom. It looks like marble in various shades of taupe and beige and I really like it. |
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| haili | May 23 2016, 08:46 AM Post #7 |
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You need an underlay for the laminate but it's not expensive and looks like a sheet of plastic with very thin foam backing. |
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| Trotsky | May 23 2016, 08:49 AM Post #8 |
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THanks for the tips everyone. |
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| goldengal | May 23 2016, 10:10 AM Post #9 |
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What is the reason you do not like laminate Angora? When my daughter and SIL were together they had dark oak hardwood installed at the lake. Within two years with two 120 lb. dogs and Montana up there quite often, the hardwood was scratched badly. The next door neighbours who also had a Bernese Mountain Dog had laminate installed but the shiny version and their dog was slipping so they had to put mats down. No scratches though. I always like to know the reason why people do not like something. Take care, Pat |
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| Delphi51 | May 23 2016, 11:47 AM Post #10 |
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I'm sure the conventional wisdom is to simply leave asbestos tile in place unless it is deteriorating. Another alternative would be vinyl plank flooring over top. Just less than 1/4 inch thick, easily installed by amateurs, impermeable to water and looks like it will last for 100 years. |
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| angora | May 23 2016, 12:12 PM Post #11 |
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Pat, I dont like laminate because it is imitation hardwood. Our previous home had 100 year old original hardwood. It was a mess but it was original. That's just the way I roll. :) |
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| campy | May 23 2016, 04:15 PM Post #12 |
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The polyurethane coating is not designed to be walked on. I'm guessing it would scuff a lot, no matter how careful you would try to be. There might be other coatings that are suitable for walking on. i'm in the same boat. I have a tile floor in the kitchen and hall here that I hate. I have no clue what the tile is but I think it is asbestos. The only option is to pull it up and replace it with something I like. The rug.? I just covered it with a huge area rug in multiple colors just to spruce the place up. All my friends love it. I would never think of coating that tile with anything. I just damp mop it to keep it clean. My friend did his whole basement room with that laminate stuff. It shows every speck of dust going. |
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| goldengal | May 23 2016, 10:28 PM Post #13 |
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Your friend's laminate must be a lot different than mine as mine does not show the dust at all. Does your friend's floor have a shiny finish? Mine does not and has a rough finish so I and any dogs will not slip. Mine was very expensive (I think) as it was $5,000 just for my living room. There are I believe different grades of laminate. Take care, Pat |
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| Trotsky | May 24 2016, 12:09 AM Post #14 |
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Is "engineered wood" the same thing as "laminate."
Sure it is, campy. Virtually every new wood floor is coated with two or three layers of polyurethane. My problem is not whether poly is DURABLE but whether it will adhere sufficiently to old hard vinyl asbestos tile without peeling. I could live with what I have...barely, if it had a permanent shine to it like polyurethane might give me. . Recoating with floor wax periodically is jut too much backbreaking work. I will try the suggestion given here, that I cannot find again to credit the poster <thanks>to buy a small can of poly and do a couple squares and see how it holds up. Also Delphi, I will look into the plank vinyl, the 1/4 inch thickness is appealing. One of my neighbors used it and claims it looks like a marble tile floor. HE had the good sense to cover over his EMPTY apartment before he switched into it. Next door neighbor put down dark walnut laminate that looked okay, but no way would anyone confuse it for a wood floor. The upside is that it required no mastic and was just "floated" over the old VAT. I don't know if it squeaks. He worked it pretty well, installing AROUND furniture a couple planks a day. I think I listened to "tap-tap-tap" for at least two months. I found 2 mm plank vinyl for only $.69 a square foot, not much pricier than using poly of epoxy: Plank Vinyl But this is the joint that charges so much for shipping.<For 612 square feet of the $.79 plank vinyl: $483 (fine) + $324 shipping (UNfine) blink 000 Maybe I will try to search this product out locally and rent a van to pick it up? I priced an "engineered wood" online at $3 a square foot and it totaled under $1000 for what I needed. Shipping added $400 more <Oh me, oh my.> I get tempted just to liquid wax the damn place but I know if I do, that will foreclose on other options. You cannot poly over wax and getting old wax up sucks and is really hard to get 100%. So maybe I must think of Ennis Del Mar's famous quote from Brokeback Mountain: "If you can't fix it, Jack, you gotta stand it." Maybe he was telling me something. I really appreciate everyone's input. Edited by Trotsky, May 24 2016, 12:55 AM.
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| goldengal | May 24 2016, 01:38 AM Post #15 |
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While Kim had hardwood installed in her bedroom and long hallway, next year she plans on having laminate installed in the other 3 bedrooms as she is so impressed with the finish in my apartment. Take care, Pat |
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