CRA Scam Calls

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CRA Scam Calls
Topic Started: May 25 2016, 08:42 AM (563 Views)
goldengal	May 25 2016, 08:42 AM Post #1
Mistress, House of Dogs Posts: 11,674 Group: Member Member #715 Joined: March 31, 2010	Two weeks ago Kim had a couple of calls, and then another one Friday evening wherein they tell you that you are being investigated by CRA for unpaid dues. The individual who called her had very broken English. Saturday I had 3 of these automated calls, and this afternoon while waiting upstairs for a trades person I had another, but this time it was a 'live call'. He told me the RCMP were listening in and would be here in 10 minutes to pick me up. Huh? I told him there is absolutely no reason for the RCMP to be investigating me, and that this is a scam and he is a phony, and I am calling the police. Again he told me the RCMP will be here in 10 minutes and once again I told him he is a phony. Ended up with him telling me I am a rotten bitch to which I told him I hope so. Then he hung up on me. How scary is this? I had researched Canada Revenue Agency on Saturday and found that many people have been bilked by this. What about little old ladies who do not have a computer? Canada Revenue Agency contacts people by mail and not by phone and definitely not automated calls, but this could sound like the 'real thing' to many. That is enough excitement for me for today. This is what I found on Saturday. http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/scrty/frdprvntn/menu-eng.html Take care, Pat Edited by goldengal, May 25 2016, 08:53 AM.

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goldengal	May 25 2016, 10:15 PM Post #16
Mistress, House of Dogs Posts: 11,674 Group: Member Member #715 Joined: March 31, 2010	The first calls were all picked up by my answering machine as I was either not home or not in the house. They are totally different than marketing calls such as duct cleaning calls. Wildie ......You would likely know if this is true. Years ago a friend told me when we receive those calls that have a pause before they begin talking if you press # repeatedly it removes your phone mumber from their records. I have been doing this for yars and wonder if I have been wasting my time. I do not have call display or call waiting both of which I had for many many years. Does not make sense for the number of calls I receive. Take care, Pat



haili	May 25 2016, 11:33 PM Post #17
Gold Star Member Posts: 7,083 Group: Member Member #387 Joined: September 15, 2006	I don't have call display as you have to go to the phone anyway to see who it is. It's easy to hang up right away but annoying if you're in the middle of something and stop to answer the phone.



Dana	May 26 2016, 04:34 AM Post #18
WWS Hummingbird Guru & Wildlife photographer extrordinaire Posts: 13,054 Group: Member Member #830 Joined: March 23, 2011	Whenever I see 'unknown caller' I don't answer and voila! no more sales calls!



erka	May 26 2016, 05:39 AM Post #19
Gold Star Member Posts: 5,330 Group: Member Member #233 Joined: February 8, 2006	Last year, I received many emails from "CRA" informing me about a large refund and to send bank information for depositing this refund. I am still getting phone calls asking for Ray. I tell the scammers that he is dead (I like being blunt) and he is at the cemetery. Amazingly a lot of these calls stopped. Here is a sad story: http://bc.ctvnews.ca/cra-scam-costs-north-vancouver-woman-thousands-of-dollars-1.2915201



Darcie	May 26 2016, 08:23 AM Post #20
Skeptic Posts: 31,154 Group: Member Member #714 Joined: March 30, 2010	I got a new one this morning, they wanted to tell me about a book that would save me for $50, The Bible.



goldengal	May 26 2016, 09:07 AM Post #21
Mistress, House of Dogs Posts: 11,674 Group: Member Member #715 Joined: March 31, 2010	erka May 26 2016, 05:39 AM Last year, I received many emails from "CRA" informing me about a large refund and to send bank information for depositing this refund. I am still getting phone calls asking for Ray. I tell the scammers that he is dead (I like being blunt) and he is at the cemetery. Amazingly a lot of these calls stopped. Here is a sad story: http://bc.ctvnews.ca/cra-scam-costs-north-vancouver-woman-thousands-of-dollars-1.2915201 Thanks for posting that Erka because it illustrates that people are duped by these calls. If one did not have a computer and was not one to check up on everything, I can see where they could easily be taken in, and it is nothing to make light of IMHO. Take care, Pat



haili	Jun 4 2016, 05:49 AM Post #22
Gold Star Member Posts: 7,083 Group: Member Member #387 Joined: September 15, 2006	This has been a big week for telemarketers and scammers. I had 2 calls yesterday from the phoney CRA guy and often 2 per day from duct cleaners; then there were several from people I didn't understand because of either talking too fast or their accents. I hung up on all of them.



Delphi51	Jun 4 2016, 10:06 AM Post #23
Member title Posts: 13,967 Group: Administration Member #441 Joined: October 10, 2006	Good for you, Wildie - keeping the beggers on line for a minute saves someone else from being called. I like to play, too. My objective is to make the caller realize he is committing a crime because I have an idea some of these callers in India or wherever are not aware of what they are doing. For the CRA scam I just say I don't think they have the right phone number - what is the social security number of the account? Credit card calls - what is my number? Computer fixers - what IP address are you trying to reach? I see a good article on how the scammers can be stopped. http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/telcos-telemarketing-scams-spam-1.3334194



Trotsky	Jun 6 2016, 01:12 AM Post #24
Big City Boy Posts: 38,319 Group: Member Member #79 Joined: September 8, 2005	Darcie May 26 2016, 08:23 AM I got a new one this morning, they wanted to tell me about a book that would save me for $50, The Bible. You can get the salvation for free next time you are in a sleazy motel: lift their Gideon bible. Reminds me of "tasteless." A friend who got "born again :happens: " gave us gifts as she was leaving NYC for good, to Lancaster. Two copies of the EVERYDAY LIFE BIBLE, leather bound and gold edge paper, each page like gossamer silk. I had recently thrown our my Marian Year Rheims Douay...gorgeous book, but falling apart and leather binding going crisp and cracking) some door-to-door salesman palmed off on my father when he was drunk so a new was an okay gift for me. But Bob was insulted (he'd Jewish, non-practicing) that a friend would be so unthinking. She said "but it's the history of your people." He wanted to throw his out (heck, which household needs TWO?) but I know she probably dropped $100 each so I put both in my stash. Edited by Trotsky, Jun 6 2016, 01:27 AM.



wildie	Jun 6 2016, 03:13 AM Post #25
Veteran Member Posts: 12,173 Group: Member Member #442 Joined: October 11, 2006	campy May 25 2016, 07:41 PM Trotsky May 25 2016, 11:48 AM I have NoMoRoBo (free app) that detects robotic calls and cuts them off after one ring so we never pick up until the second ring. We get two such calls per day. I'm going to look that up to see if it will work on a cell phone. What I do now is use the rejection feature on the phone. When you get a strange number you can add it to your auto rejection list. Of course they keep changing the numbers but many of them are repeats. I can tell by the logs. As the scammers dial ALL the phone numbers in an area, they know which numbers are unassigned. Armed with this info, they transmit these spare numbers as their own calling number. I used to ignore out of area phone numbers and its likely that many others did also. To get around this filtering, the scammers started to insert local numbers to foil us. Now I depend on my answering machine to do my filtering. The scammers autodialimg equipment will abandon the call if it hears the answering machine tone.



goldengal	Jun 6 2016, 03:53 AM Post #26
Mistress, House of Dogs Posts: 11,674 Group: Member Member #715 Joined: March 31, 2010	wildie Jun 6 2016, 03:13 AM campy May 25 2016, 07:41 PM Quoting limited to 2 levels deep As the scammers dial ALL the phone numbers in an area, they know which numbers are unassigned. Armed with this info, they transmit these spare numbers as their own calling number. I used to ignore out of area phone numbers and its likely that many others did also. To get around this filtering, the scammers started to insert local numbers to foil us. Now I depend on my answering machine to do my filtering. The scammers autodialimg equipment will abandon the call if it hears the answering machine tone. Not true in our case. The first two automated calls in each case went direct to our voice mail. Take care, Pat



wildie	Jun 6 2016, 06:30 AM Post #27
Veteran Member Posts: 12,173 Group: Member Member #442 Joined: October 11, 2006	goldengal Jun 6 2016, 03:53 AM wildie Jun 6 2016, 03:13 AM Quoting limited to 2 levels deep Not true in our case. The first two automated calls in each case went direct to our voice mail. Take care, Pat The autodialing equipment can be programed to abandon or leave a voice-mail message. Depends on whether the owners wish to leave messages or whether they would rather spend the time scanning for more suckers. I remember setting up these autodialers for TD bank back in the early 90s. I was never privy to the purpose that these were intended?



wildie	Jun 28 2016, 09:46 AM Post #28
Veteran Member Posts: 12,173 Group: Member Member #442 Joined: October 11, 2006	goldengal May 25 2016, 10:15 PM The first calls were all picked up by my answering machine as I was either not home or not in the house. They are totally different than marketing calls such as duct cleaning calls. Wildie ......You would likely know if this is true. Years ago a friend told me when we receive those calls that have a pause before they begin talking if you press # repeatedly it removes your phone mumber from their records. I have been doing this for yars and wonder if I have been wasting my time. I do not have call display or call waiting both of which I had for many many years. Does not make sense for the number of calls I receive. Take care, Pat Hi Pat, hitting the ### sign would only work, if the equipment at the other end is designed to respond to that signal. I can't imagine that scammers would go to the trouble of assisting their victims. However, if it makes you feel better, pounding on something, go ahead. Its better than throwing the phone across the room!



goldengal	Jun 28 2016, 11:47 AM Post #29
Mistress, House of Dogs Posts: 11,674 Group: Member Member #715 Joined: March 31, 2010	Had a good chuckle at that Wildie. Guess I'll give up the pounding. lol Take care, Pat



Delphi51	Jun 28 2016, 03:15 PM Post #30
Member title Posts: 13,967 Group: Administration Member #441 Joined: October 10, 2006	I'm finding it satisfying to talk to the scammers. I like to "prove" they are scamming and tell them I hope they can get a real job. The credit card interest reducers called today but didn't know what credit card I had. Gotcha!



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