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House main water shut off!
Topic Started: Jul 1 2016, 03:42 AM (518 Views)
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I'm appealing to those on here that have knowledge of plumbing. We have water shut offs on all toilets, sinks etc., but not the bath tub. Last night the hot water tap became disengaged, virtually blew off and water blasting all over the main bath on the upper level. By the time I got to the basement to shut off the main water supply there was quite a mess. But for water on a few ceiling tiles all seems restored.

Question is the main shut off is now leaking sigh! This has never happened when we've had to turn it off before. We have a bucket under it presently. Can't get a plumber until Monday a.m.

Do you think this can be fixed or will the city have to shutoff the water so it can be?
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For the Moen you don't have to save the receipt, the fact that the fixture is of that brand is proof enough.
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One of our friends had a house built and he used a manifold, so shutoff valves at any of the sinks, toilets, showers are not necessary. Each unit that uses water has it's own supply, and can be shut down in a common area. http://construction.about.com/od/Innovations/a/Plumbing-Manifolds.htm
We've seen a few of these in some higher end homes, if I was having a house built, I would install the feature.

One thing many people don't know about is where their curb-stop is located. It is located outside and many homes have it covered by lawns or even driveways, some homeowners don't know it exists. The curb stop is the main water shutdown from the city supply, if it fails or you can't find it when you need it immediately, you might be in big trouble.
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Re basement main shut off valve. Sometimes these will leak for awhile after being used and then stop as the washer expands again. In the meantime just keep a bucket underneath it.

Thanks Campy, this is what we've done. You are correct the water is becoming less.
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Plumber came this a.m. new cartridges in the taps. He repacked the water shut off, was here half an hour. I think I finally after 28 years, have found an honest and not excessively priced plumber! He said 80.00 cash or 120.00 with receipt, that was a no brainer!
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Jul 1 2016, 03:42 AM
Last night the hot water tap became disengaged, virtually blew off and water blasting all over the main bath on the upper level.
Do you have a really high water pressure where you live? I've never heard of a tap blasting off the line before. Was the tap originally fitted with some sort of compression fitting? We don't have such fittings here.
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He said 80.00 cash or 120.00 with receipt


Why the difference? Does he not like paying his income taxes?
Edited by Trotsky, Jul 6 2016, 12:50 AM.
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Jul 2 2016, 03:40 AM
For the Moen you don't have to save the receipt, the fact that the fixture is of that brand is proof enough.
In our small town, there is no need to show the old cartridge - just take a new one!

I replaced our non-Moen kitchen tap recently and bought the Moen with that in mind. I found the Moen was much better designed and almost a pleasure to install. The hardware store owner, a friend, told me Moen help is absolutely first class.
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Do you have a really high water pressure where you live? I've never heard of a tap blasting off the line before. Was the tap originally fitted with some sort of compression fitting? We don't have such fittings here.

He showed me the seal or whatever in the fitting, it had a hole in it, as well as being worn around the edge. When I would turn the hot water on, this fitting with the hole couldn't withstand the pressure and the entire unit would blow out! I blamed DH as he installed the last one and he is not a DIY er! I also was turning the tap off too tightly when it would leak, so had scarred the cartridge. I said to him I want new taps I'm not risking this again, this is twice this has blown and water all over hell. He said you don't need new taps just cartridges, which I appreciated as many others would've installed new taps.
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You still need an access panel behind the tub and shut off taps installed in the lines in case of trouble. You should not have to go to the main valve shut off for any trouble at all on any faucets.

If you had shut off valves on the lines into the tub, it would be easy to just replace the fixtures like you wanted to do.

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My tub faucets incorporate a screw in and immediately under the cartridge stem. A screwdriver and a half turn is all that is required to cut off the water. It must have been a 1975 thing.

Reading all this high praise for Moen faucets makes we wish I had bought them when I replaced bathroom and kitchen. I bought Glacier and Delta.
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Jul 2 2016, 04:07 AM
One of our friends had a house built and he used a manifold, so shutoff valves at any of the sinks, toilets, showers are not necessary. Each unit that uses water has it's own supply, and can be shut down in a common area. http://construction.about.com/od/Innovations/a/Plumbing-Manifolds.htm
We've seen a few of these in some higher end homes, if I was having a house built, I would install the feature.

One thing many people don't know about is where their curb-stop is located. It is located outside and many homes have it covered by lawns or even driveways, some homeowners don't know it exists. The curb stop is the main water shutdown from the city supply, if it fails or you can't find it when you need it immediately, you might be in big trouble.
Right. But the city liked it hidden. They don't want homeowners accessing it.

The ones we have need a long extension.

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My kitchen sink in Montreal has a Moen that was installed in 2000 and works like new. If I buy taps I always purchase Moen.
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