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Developer blog: What constitutes the change?; March 3rd, 2010
Topic Started: Mar 3 2010, 08:01 PM (776 Views)
summers69	Mar 3 2010, 08:01 PM Post #1
Legenda Forumus Maximus Posts: 3,202 Group: Hawt Member Member #931 Joined: July 1, 2008 Runescape Username 'Sinbad' Homeworld earth	Quote: Why have we made this change? We have often felt that the early levels of RuneScape are quite tough to understand and learn, and have been consistently working on improvements to the initial part of the game for the last two years or so. One of the things we realised from play-testing our game was that new players hit quite a lot of zeros while training combat, and zeros are boring. We wanted to give more excitement to the early parts of the game without making it easier. Equally, when a new player was hit by a monster, they only had 10 hitpoints to absorb that hit. The minimum damage we can do to that player is 1, which was 10% of their total hitpoints - a hit too big for someone learning the game. With this change, we can allow low-level player to take hits more appropriate for their level, and deal small amounts of damage instead of seeing so many zeros. Why change the name of the skill? The term 'hit points' is a term associated with typical pen-and-paper roleplaying games. Traditionally, it�s a mechanic that allows a player to track how many hits they can take before they die. When we realised that our hitpoints mechanic needed to be changed, we didn�t want to confuse our players by using the same term to describe something else, so decided to remove the old term completely. Are there any other benefits to the change? We can start to use the skill itself in quests and skill updates. The problem we had with the skill being the same at the total hits a player could take was that we could never really affect the skill itself. This change allows us to add things like Constitution potions, which could increase your maximum life points but not actually heal you, or add a weapon that drains your opponent�s Constitution stat as well as doing damage to them. It really opens up lots of new design opportunities that were previously unavailable. If you have any ideas on how we can use the Constitution stat, please let us know on the Suggestions - Skill forums. Is this the new skill you were talking about? No! We are still working on the new skill; this is not it. Edited by summers69, Mar 3 2010, 08:01 PM.



Firefox2828	Mar 3 2010, 09:50 PM Post #2
Slayer Ftw Posts: 712 Group: Active Member Member #1,758 Joined: November 1, 2008 Runescape Username firefox2828 Homeworld 68	Once again Jagex gives in to the lower level population and completely ignores the high level players...
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Tehfonz	Mar 3 2010, 11:29 PM Post #3
><> Posts: 698 Group: Active Member Member #329 Joined: February 29, 2008 Runescape Username Tehfonzy Homeworld 64	Firefox2828 Mar 3 2010, 09:50 PM Once again Jagex gives in to the lower level population and completely ignores the high level players... At least the newbies would understand some things now.... Remember, u were a lower level once, dont let them waste their opportunity of them being a high level. But yes....they do ignore the higher level guys abit too much, however i think this update has a good purpose for the new players and gives them less confusion for their time in rs Just wait soon enough....some awesome high level feature will come sooner or later.....



Yakuppp	Mar 3 2010, 11:32 PM Post #4
Pro, Posts: 1,286 Group: Hawt Member Member #1,728 Joined: October 28, 2008 Runescape Username iRume Homeworld CoDBO	Sideways29 Mar 3 2010, 11:29 PM Firefox2828 Mar 3 2010, 09:50 PM Once again Jagex gives in to the lower level population and completely ignores the high level players... At least the newbies would understand some things now.... Remember, u were a lower level once, dont let them waste their opportunity of them being a high level. But yes....they do ignore the higher level guys abit too much, however i think this update has a good purpose for the new players and gives them less confusion for their time in rs Just wait soon enough....some awesome high level feature will come sooner or later..... -They should add the option to change the hp if u want it like that or normal like the cursor -Remove constitution from pvp worlds -they also copied WoW



Tehfonz	Mar 3 2010, 11:53 PM Post #5
><> Posts: 698 Group: Active Member Member #329 Joined: February 29, 2008 Runescape Username Tehfonzy Homeworld 64	Rumeysa 68 Mar 3 2010, 11:32 PM Sideways29 Mar 3 2010, 11:29 PM Firefox2828 Mar 3 2010, 09:50 PM Once again Jagex gives in to the lower level population and completely ignores the high level players... At least the newbies would understand some things now.... Remember, u were a lower level once, dont let them waste their opportunity of them being a high level. But yes....they do ignore the higher level guys abit too much, however i think this update has a good purpose for the new players and gives them less confusion for their time in rs Just wait soon enough....some awesome high level feature will come sooner or later..... -They should add the option to change the hp if u want it like that or normal like the cursor -Remove constitution from pvp worlds -they also copied WoW ... Sideways29 how does this even relate to WoW? its not even that close of relating to it.... In max levels in WoW, you'll most likely to hit over 10k dmg all the time, the max hit in rs is probably 1.1k+ now, and theres no way a maxxed wow player can hit that, thats a huge difference now aint it? Also at maxxed levels you would have 25k hp if ur geared enough... At least play WoW once in a while before u even use it as an excuse.... this update doesnt even relate to it at all... ......please, stop relating stuff to WoW when its not true....



Firefox2828	Mar 4 2010, 03:06 AM Post #6
Slayer Ftw Posts: 712 Group: Active Member Member #1,758 Joined: November 1, 2008 Runescape Username firefox2828 Homeworld 68	Sideways29 Mar 3 2010, 11:29 PM Firefox2828 Mar 3 2010, 09:50 PM Once again Jagex gives in to the lower level population and completely ignores the high level players... At least the newbies would understand some things now.... Remember, u were a lower level once, dont let them waste their opportunity of them being a high level. But yes....they do ignore the higher level guys abit too much, however i think this update has a good purpose for the new players and gives them less confusion for their time in rs Just wait soon enough....some awesome high level feature will come sooner or later..... Yeah I was once a noob and I had to go through hitting constant 0's and all that stuff they're complaining about too. Instead of whining and crying they should just work harder to become a higher level so they hit higher and more often if it bugs them that much.
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Tehfonz	Mar 4 2010, 08:35 AM Post #7
><> Posts: 698 Group: Active Member Member #329 Joined: February 29, 2008 Runescape Username Tehfonzy Homeworld 64	Firefox2828 Mar 4 2010, 03:06 AM Sideways29 Mar 3 2010, 11:29 PM Firefox2828 Mar 3 2010, 09:50 PM Once again Jagex gives in to the lower level population and completely ignores the high level players... At least the newbies would understand some things now.... Remember, u were a lower level once, dont let them waste their opportunity of them being a high level. But yes....they do ignore the higher level guys abit too much, however i think this update has a good purpose for the new players and gives them less confusion for their time in rs Just wait soon enough....some awesome high level feature will come sooner or later..... Yeah I was once a noob and I had to go through hitting constant 0's and all that stuff they're complaining about too. Instead of whining and crying they should just work harder to become a higher level so they hit higher and more often if it bugs them that much. I agree, but i suppose this will push them further in a convincing way, it somhow worked for me, but lets just see what happens in the coming weeks



Lee	Mar 4 2010, 08:58 AM Post #8
Goal to Max Turmoil Pure Posts: 831 Group: Active Member Member #1,208 Joined: August 1, 2008 Runescape Username Money Pascal Homeworld any	I see the point about making the game more ' exciting ' for lower level players, but on the whole this was totally not needed, probably not wanted , and was just a waste of time



Nadrew2	Mar 4 2010, 01:04 PM Post #9
Banana Hammock Posts: 2,724 Group: Hawt Member Member #3,021 Joined: May 6, 2009 Runescape Username Nadrew Homeworld 27	Sideways29 Mar 3 2010, 11:29 PM Firefox2828 Mar 3 2010, 09:50 PM Once again Jagex gives in to the lower level population and completely ignores the high level players... At least the newbies would understand some things now.... Remember, u were a lower level once, dont let them waste their opportunity of them being a high level. But yes....they do ignore the higher level guys abit too much, however i think this update has a good purpose for the new players and gives them less confusion for their time in rs Just wait soon enough....some awesome high level feature will come sooner or later..... less confusion?????? you're kidding right? they have 2 or 3 numbers on the screen instead of 1 or 2? realy? and then they have 3 numbers to keep track of instead of 2?
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Calquat	Mar 4 2010, 01:31 PM Post #10
Yup. I'm a tree. Posts: 769 Group: Active Member Member #1,329 Joined: August 17, 2008 Runescape Username Cwalth Homeworld 27	Rumeysa 68 Mar 3 2010, 11:32 PM Sideways29 Mar 3 2010, 11:29 PM Firefox2828 Mar 3 2010, 09:50 PM Once again Jagex gives in to the lower level population and completely ignores the high level players... At least the newbies would understand some things now.... Remember, u were a lower level once, dont let them waste their opportunity of them being a high level. But yes....they do ignore the higher level guys abit too much, however i think this update has a good purpose for the new players and gives them less confusion for their time in rs Just wait soon enough....some awesome high level feature will come sooner or later..... -They should add the option to change the hp if u want it like that or normal like the cursor -Remove constitution from pvp worlds -they also copied WoW How about a censore toggle, like the cursor?



Nfg22	Mar 4 2010, 02:33 PM Post #11
Posts-a-lot Posts: 764 Group: Active Member Member #2,016 Joined: December 6, 2008	The only thing I have against this is calculating the xp. if you hit a 1 how much xp do you get ???



Sil4b	Mar 4 2010, 07:05 PM Post #12
We Never Know. Posts: 246 Group: Member Member #287 Joined: February 16, 2008 Runescape Username CFile Homeworld 7/22	New's updates on runescae = quiting ppl = epic fail.... rs is f***** up lol.
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Yakuppp	Mar 4 2010, 07:52 PM Post #13
Pro, Posts: 1,286 Group: Hawt Member Member #1,728 Joined: October 28, 2008 Runescape Username iRume Homeworld CoDBO	Sil4b Mar 4 2010, 07:05 PM New's updates on runescae = quiting ppl = epic fail.... rs is f***** up lol. No wonder they realeased the bonus xp weekend ( everyone was happy and cheerfull) AND NOW THEY RELEASE HP :@



ITIrfeenix67	Mar 4 2010, 08:27 PM Post #14
Prepare to be blown away, Que the Fan! Posts: 163 Group: Member Member #3,550 Joined: December 13, 2009 Runescape Username CallMeD3ATH Homeworld 1337	all in here 15-16-216-60512186 (QFC on forums)
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Sil4b	Mar 4 2010, 09:49 PM Post #15
We Never Know. Posts: 246 Group: Member Member #287 Joined: February 16, 2008 Runescape Username CFile Homeworld 7/22	:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO f* my english :/ Edited by Sil4b**, Mar 4 2010, 09:56 PM.
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