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| Discuss: Through the Eyes of a Spiketail; On British TV | |
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| Bruton the Iguanodon | Mar 26 2012, 06:49:05 PM Post #61 |
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I felt they made him too much of a hero in this episode, in ways that not even Littlefoot gets. I would be fine with them showing his POV...if it was a logical POV. Seriously, how many of you guys suspected he sees in purple? Or hears only in grunts? No! He's as perfectly rational as the rest...unless the others see in different colors, too. This is particularly sad because it means Spike has missed out on very amazing, beautifully colored moments. And while he may have enjoyed performing in "Bad Luck"...imagine the song from his POV. It would probably feel like "Bad Luck: The Hangover Mix"! I espicially hated how he even turned Mr. Threehorn into a joke---but really, it doesn't matter at this point: Mr. Threehorn completely lost it after "Journey to Big Water". Oh, and:
Anyone ever considered this?
As you can see by the points I've made, it actually isn't. Or didn't need to be, at least. And I still stand by this:
And really...did this have to be the last episode?
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| Bruton the Iguanodon | Mar 26 2012, 11:55:50 PM Post #62 |
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Cause it's my least favorite episode of them all! I'm sorry, I just really hate this episode. <_< Although stranger from the mysterious above looked pretty bad, so did March of the sand critters and a few others. Oh, and again, what's with the title? "A spiketail"?!! It's not just some random spiketail they're showing through the eyes of...probably would have been better off with the title I suggested. |
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| DarkHououmon | Mar 27 2012, 07:58:22 AM Post #63 |
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"Be prepared, Snappy boy. Your luck has run out..."
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Yes, you don't like the episode. You already made that pretty clear. No reason to keep posting about how you don't like it; it's not going to bring conversation to this topic. Just be patient and wait for other people to reply. Not all of us have as much free time as you do. |
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| Littlefoot Fan 93 | May 29 2013, 01:05:53 AM Post #64 |
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Had anybody noticed that the scene where the gang found their first reference (the tree) on their journey that when we look through Spike's eyes, that Ruby sounds much like a Chicken? Or is that just me? |
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| Petrie85 | Jun 1 2013, 09:21:50 AM Post #65 |
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Great To Be Different
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I'm not sure I haven't had the pleasure of sitting through this horrible episode in a while. I need to do that some how so I can make my full comment on this episode. The last time I sat through it I was drink so I could sit through it. That's not a good sign is it. |
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| Ducky123 | Nov 10 2013, 03:52:02 PM Post #66 |
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Okay, Spike's voice creeped me out a little bit to be honest... and the whole thing about Spike is... a little annoying. I won't change the way I think about Spike. Anyway, the dialogues and the plot itself (leaving aside the whole Spike thing) is good but could have been done better of course. The songs were crap because Spike's voice actor can't sing and his voice sounds nasty. |
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| rhombus | Nov 11 2013, 12:32:17 PM Post #67 |
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The Friendly Parallelogram
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There were certain aspects to this episode that I thought were quite original and that helped elaborate Spike's character, but there were others that I thought were unfortunate and that clashed with what was established in the films. In particular, I like how they seem to imply that Spike is just as intelligent as the others (or at least in the same range) but that he simply views the world in a fundamentally different way. His fixation on things that the others may not notice or may find unimportant (the song of the plants) and his inability to communicate effectively would seem to make Spike almost autistic in his worldview and perceptions. I feel that the portrayal of a character in this way is rather original and may actually be useful to the target audience of young children. In the films we have seen many different physical 'kinds' join together and become friends despite their differences, whereas in this episode we get to see much of it through the eyes of someone who is of a different 'mental' kind. As someone who is on the autistic spectrum with rather mild traits, I appreciate the attempt to portray a character who is 'different' mentally. It is something that is often ignored in the popular media or otherwise is portrayed from a third person perspective. However, there were many parts to this episode that I did not care for at all. First of all, they portray Spike as not understanding the rest of the gang, only understanding certain words such as personal names and food names. This clashes with many incidents in the films where Spike would nod, shake his head, or give affirmative grunts to indicate his understanding of entire conversations and complex ideas. For whatever it is worth, I will be portraying Spike as if he is simply mute (as a leafeater) but can still understand language in the 'sudden change of species' roleplay. Where the films and the TV series contradict, I choose to have the film's portrayal take priority. Secondly, the whole 'song of the plants' idea could have been done better by depicting Spike as smelling a symphony of smells. It was already established in the series that Spike has a well-developed sense of smell, so why not use that as a plot point in this episode? I simply view that as a lost opportunity to established continuity with what came before. Although, as Cancerian Tiger pointed out earlier in this topic, his hearing of the 'song of the plants' could be due to synesthesia, where he is 'hearing' smells due to a misrouting of sensory information through his thalamus. If that is the case, then my criticism on that point would be unfounded. So, overall I have mixed views on this episode. I appreciate what they were trying to do in their portrayal of Spike, but I feel that they unnecessarily created continuity errors with the films. Although, admittedly, continuity issues are nothing new in the television series. |
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| Kor | Nov 11 2013, 01:43:38 PM Post #68 |
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I've not seen this episode in a while. As I recall there are also scenes in some movies, don't recall which ones right off, that have it seem like Ducky can understand Spike just fine, as well as mentioned before his being able to understand the others just fine. |
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| jansenov | Nov 11 2013, 03:18:58 PM Post #69 |
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Ducky's sub-par imitator
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Ducky also understands Dinah and Dina much better than Cera does. She is very good at understanding "garbled" messages, but has difficulties articulating them herself. This is not necessarily unusual. Rowan Atkinson has problems with stuttering, for example. As for the episode, the portrayal of Spike's senses is so inconsistent that it can't be explained by synesthesia either, since there are parts of the episode where his sense of smell and sense of hearing are shown as normal, picking up only what they should pick up (hearing the waterfall, smelling up the rest of the Gang instead of hearing their smell). The "treestar song" can only be explained as an actual sound, which testifies to the carelessness of the scripwriters. |
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| LittlefootAndAliTogether | Jan 5 2015, 10:19:52 PM Post #70 |
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Beware of Silver Claw!
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I think Spike can understand stuff more than food and names. I was hoping to save Spike talking to have him use whole sentences to expose some evil villain about to take over the Great Valley. Anyway, I noticed that Chomper is eating hardwater sweets. (At least through Spike's eyes.) Chomper: (Watching the episode) I didn't know I could do that!!!! Also, somebody suggested that the grunts and stuff were actually the leaf eater language. We've heard the Sharptooth language before but never the Leaf Eater one. |
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| Littlefoot fan 1990 | Jan 9 2015, 08:40:56 AM Post #71 |
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This episode was okay. However, I liked Spike's scat-singing better than his actual singing. It's funny how Spike only sees purple; I never figured out why he only sees purple. That is all I can say about this episode. |
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| Kor | Jan 9 2015, 04:23:38 PM Post #72 |
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To me this episode seemed like someone, or a group of folks working on the show either drank some beer and got a buz or smoked a joint or 2 then wrote the episode. |
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| LittlefootAndAliTogether | Jan 9 2015, 04:36:19 PM Post #73 |
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Beware of Silver Claw!
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Was Chomper really eating a hard water sweet? If so, he's the first Omnivore T-Rex and can be proud of himself for making history. |
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| Kor | Jan 10 2015, 04:03:52 PM Post #74 |
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Could be. If one puts this as the last episode then one could say Chomper did make the transition to becoming an omnivore. |
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