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Tsukuyomi and MoF are staples; Pot, Graceful, and Duo made sure of that
Topic Started: Jun 30 2005, 08:34 PM (410 Views)
Vampire Lord
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Pot of Greed, Graceful Charity, and Delinquent Duo are commonly known as the “Trinity” due to their absolutely godly effects. These three cards are staples in absolutely any deck whatsoever. Pot of Greed and Graceful are very easy to get your hands on, but D. Duo is not (although it’s arguably the best of the three). Those these cards are widely renowned as the three best Spells in Advanced Format Yugioh, there are some doubters who say that “Duo sucks” (yes, I actually read this over at Pojo) and the like.

Let’s start with Pot of Greed. Though I can’t imagine you wouldn’t know, Pot of Greed allows you to draw the top two cards from your deck. Totally awesome. Graceful Charity allows you to draw 3 cards, then discard 2 from your hand. Can anyone say “Chaos food?” And D. Duo, at the cost of 1000 LP, forces your opponent to randomly discard a card from his/her hand, then choose another card to discard.

What’s the point of this essay, besides shoveling love on the Trinity? To make my point about Tsukuyomi and Magician of Faith being staples. Just as every deck should run the Trininy, I honestly believe that every single deck out there should run Tsuku and at least one Magician of Faith. Re-using any of the Trinity is wonderful (well, unless your opponent has a Sinister Serpent in hand and you use Del Duo, but even then you’re killing one card), and re-using Trinity cards more than once? Awesome!

Thus, it is imperative that, if you want to have a competitive deck, you run these three cards, Tsuku, and at least one MoF (preferably two).
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K10
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i agree with the trinity, half way agree on faith, COMPLETELY deisagree on tsuku. i don't use him, and i won't use him. he uses your summon for the turn, has "decent" attack power, and is overly situational. faith is more useful, but she is still situational. the only reason she gets seen so much is because she's light, making her chaos food, or she's crucial to magic heavy decks. she fits allot of purposes, and does them all well, but her effect is situational, and completely negated by a GK deck, or anyone else who wants to sideboard againts post ban exodia.

of the trio, the only one that is really unfair is D. duo. i have one, i run it, and i still want to see it banned. i only run it because i have to to stay competative, unlike faith who i run because it is a good idea.

also, common mistake, they did not restrict graceful because of chaos food. that was just the last straw, and it didn't even phase a well built chaos deck. they did it because it allowed you to completely alter your hand at the drop of a hat. what's the difference between it and PoG? the fact you can use graceful to launch a slew of combos. drop the huge atk monster, pull it back with a premmy, haunted or book of life. only reason chaos gets blamed is because it's top tier....trust me, when you see chaos broken, and zombie/graveyard decks make take the stage, you'll still be grateful they can only graceful 1 time without work.

so, in conclusion, ban duo, chain to tsuku.

thank you.
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Vampire Lord
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Tsuku is a female, lol. All three of the Trinity cards are godly no matter what decktype they're used in, certainly. I wouldn't call Tsuku situational at all, she can be used in a host of situations. The need to take out a big monster on your opponent's side of the field or re-use a flip effect are very common situations.
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yes it is, but it is very rare that that card is the best way to do it. i personally prefer the book of moon. yes, less reusable, but it is FAR more flexible.
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Vampire Lord
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One thing is for sure: Tsuku >>>> TER :-P
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lol, only if you play it perfectly, but the moon would do you better
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ToiletPaper101
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I had traded for a Duo but when it was banned in October(it was, right?) I traded it away. I run Pot and Graceful, and a Magician.

EDIT: Don't know where my Tsuku went, so Book has its place until I find it..
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Kyp Durron
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yes, PoG, Charity, and Duo are all staples, Tsukuyomi and MoF are not. MoF is very good, but not a staple.

For this purpose, a staple is a card that is needed in every competitive deck that a person might run.

to counter MoF being a staple, would u run a MoF in a GKeeper deck? As for Tsuku, would you run a Tsuku in a beatdown??

MoF is good, but there should only be 1 per deck. W/ all the removal (NoC, Exiled, Sasuke, BLS,...) it will hardly ever get it's effect.
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Apocolypse
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Nah, you can have atleast 2 MoF in a deck and be ok. Three wouldn't be so smart.....
I do agree with you though that Tsukuyomi and MoF are not Staples. Because they do not work well in EVERY deck liek Force. Come on, destroys attackinig monsters....works well in just about any deck. Same with Duo, card control. Graceful Charity, card gain and combos. Pot, gain cards without draw back. Yah, those three are definant staples, maybe not Duo as much as the others.....but MoF and Tsuku are not.
I agree with K10 that a Book Of Moon would be better to use then Tsuku.
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Kyp Durron
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think about like this Apoc, Pot= +1 card advantage (draw 2, but u lose pot)
D.Duo= +1 Card advantage (ur oppoent loses 2, but u lose duo)
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Vampire Lord
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"Three wouldn't be so smart....."

Hehe, I run 3 in my Zombie deck. Sometimes I do get burned by a crossout, but other times it works wonderfully. I actually would run Tsuku in a beatdown deck (though I wouldn't run MoF in a Gravekeeper deck, of course). When using a beatdown deck, there's always the chance you'll be facing a bigger monster that you just need to get rid of.
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That's what spells and traps are for.

And Kyp, I guess that works for Duo - it's like an anti-pot against your opponent.
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My advice to Upperdeck: Limit MoF and Tsuku to one. Also, ban Graceful Charity and BLS-Envoy and bring back Painful Choice.
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Deityplague
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C'mon tsukuyomi is far too sexay to not play in your deck. I can't count the number of times shes saved my behind. i just wish her attack was a little higher but its best to balance a card than to have a total broken card.
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1) the fact that half the people that havr responded do not run tsu means she is not staple.

2) yes, MoF is good, but ALLOT of decks now do not use her. beatdown. GK, etc.

3) i agree duo shopuld be banned. it's more than card advantage, it's card disadvantage, which is far more devestating. the proof is the fact that barely anyone stops or chains to a pot of greed, but if they can, they try to stop a duo.

4) what's wrong with graceful? it's a good card, and yes, it has allot of combos, but it does cost, so let it stay around.

5) painful choice got what it deserved. WAY to many ways to get those cards back to your hand nowadays, and painful choice fuels the discard-beased decks WAY better than graceful.

6) i am right, obey me^_~
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