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| Over Rated Magic and Traps | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 9 2005, 02:48 PM (293 Views) | |
| Kyp Durron | Jul 9 2005, 02:48 PM Post #1 |
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Over Rated Magic: 1. Lightning Vortex This card is often seen as a replacement to Raigeki. This is not a good comparison, because Raigeki is without a price, while you have to discard to use Vortex. Also, it has limited ability to destroy monsters, as it can only destroy face up monsters. 2. Enemy Controller This is a very good card. However it’s not a staple, due to the fact that it requires a cost. Also, only lasting one turn hurts it. I really advise running 1 of these per deck, but anymore and it will hurt you too much. 3. Swords of Revealing Light This card is really not needed in an offensive deck such as control, or zombies, because they usually don’t need the protection. However, for a defensive deck such as burn, or exodia, this is needed more that most spells Over Rated Traps: 1.Magic Cylinder The main drawback to this card is that it lacks chain ability. Also, it only effects 1 monster, thus still allowing damage from a horde of monsters. 2. Mirror Force This is also hurt by it’s lack of chain ability. Also, it’s considered to be the best trap, but if it really is, then why isn’t it banned, and Imperial Order is?? 3. Sakaretsu Armour This is a miniature version of Mirror Force, thus people try running it in 3’s. I highly advise running the more versatile CEDevice instead, as that can be used for more purposes… but I’ll explain that later. |
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| Apocolypse | Jul 9 2005, 03:51 PM Post #2 |
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Swords isn't THAT overrated is it? Mirror Force is the (one of) the best traps that ISN'T banned these days. What about Waboku? Do u think that it's under-rated or over-rated? |
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| Raging Flame Sprite | Jul 9 2005, 08:13 PM Post #3 |
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Force is just way overrated. its not that good, its just made to appear it. fact is, its situational, has no chainability whatsoever. MST, tornado, storm, breaker, and its gone. yeah, it has destruction, but ur almost better off with a waboku. i think (although u aren't asking) that waboku is underrated. most ppl don't give it enough credit. they still think negate attack is just as good..not true and Kyp, i don't really agree with armor, but yes to mostly everything else. as for swords, it works in it's elements, like a lot of other cards. mainly, stall, and thats about it. |
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| Apocolypse | Jul 11 2005, 06:15 PM Post #4 |
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yah it is pretty sad that people do still think Negate Attack is just as good as Waboku. I agree with you RFS that it is probably under-rated. It is practically the most chainable trap out there. |
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| Raging Flame Sprite | Jul 12 2005, 04:08 PM Post #5 |
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yeah *shakes head* its just sad...personally, i'll stick 3 in just about every deck |
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| Apocolypse | Jul 14 2005, 07:48 PM Post #6 |
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Yah, same here...or atleast I would if I had taht many. I will always stick in atleast one in all of my decks. Then I put in Sakuretsus for those actaully aren't to bad. I don't think it is that over-rated though. Sure it destroys a monster...but it doesn't have to much chainability. it is limited just like Mirror Force, except Force destroys more monsters. But yes, Waboku is the way more prefered trap. |
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| tea'sfavoriteharumboy | Jul 15 2005, 09:26 AM Post #7 |
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all waboku does is save you for a turn! that really won't help much...i mean, uif anyone, i believe that a single draw of a card can save the duel, but it just is to much to expect that it'll be exactly what you need, even WITH the heart of the cards backing you up.... for thse of you with waboku in their decks, and decks with more than 40 cards.... waboku basically only saves you for one turn, to give you that extra draw... but you would already have that card that you would have drawn in your hand were waboku not on top of it...... as for chainability, that is quite situational, as the odds of your opponent drawing m/t eremoval whilst you have it on the field are quite slim, even with the rising amount of it being put into decks these days... unless you run 3... in that case, shame on you, for neeeding to be saved so much. |
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| Apocolypse | Jul 15 2005, 03:39 PM Post #8 |
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first of all....most traps only DO save you for one turn. And it is actually (sometimes) higher then "slim" for someone to destroy your traps. And sometimes people er their deck do need a lot of protection. |
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| Raging Flame Sprite | Jul 15 2005, 07:26 PM Post #9 |
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*whacks harumboy* no, u cannot possibly underrate waboku so much, shame on u. lol, j/k, well, not about the whack part anyways... how can u say those things? first of all, when i say chainability, i mean breaker, mst, tornado, storm, and duster in traditional. if u already have it on the field, it can save ur LP for one turn. but it has other uses too. u can save a mon for one turn and sac it the next. u can use it to use penguin soldiers effect twice by returning him. in traditional, u stop the killer CED combo with yata. theres another one, yata! if ur opponent brings back jinzo with call or premmy, u can chain it to the card and NOT lose its effect, unlike force or cylinder. ok, thats enough ranting for today. i could go on forever.... |
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| Apocolypse | Jul 16 2005, 11:22 PM Post #10 |
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Indeed. I was gonna rant and explain more but I saved that for you RFS. lol And you basically repeated everything, but hopefully that will get through to Harum. |
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| Vampire Lord | Jul 16 2005, 11:50 PM Post #11 |
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Chainability is important, but there are only three forms of s/t destruction found in basically every deck: MST, Breaker, and Heavy Storm. Dust Tornado is popular, but not enough people appreciate how useful it is. Mobius and Phoenix are fairly popular, but not commonplace. Thus, I definitely thing Force is a staple -- even if Ring of Destruction is 10x better than it. |
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| tea'sfavoriteharumboy | Jul 20 2005, 03:09 AM Post #12 |
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*whacks harumboy* no, u cannot possibly underrate waboku so much, shame on u. lol, j/k, well, not about the whack part anyways... ouch.... ive been whacked! stupid little.... >grumbles< anyyway... yeah right, apoc, as if you could get through this thick head o' mine! teeheehee... i will never surrender, that force is better than waboku, infinitely, thiough you have showed me that waboku is pretty good.... |
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| Vampire Lord | Jul 20 2005, 01:45 PM Post #13 |
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Waboku is technically -1 card advantage. Mirror Force could be anywhere from a one-for-one trade to +4 card advantage. Usually it'll be at least +1 or +2. |
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| Kyp Durron | Jul 21 2005, 12:25 AM Post #14 |
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waboku isn't meant to gain card advantage. if u dismissed all cards that didn't give u card advantage, u would lose graceful charity, all burn cards, gravity bind, llab, and so on and so on. |
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| Vampire Lord | Jul 21 2005, 12:30 AM Post #15 |
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Yes, I know. The -1 card advantage doesn't make Waboku bad by any means; it's an excellent trap, but I think that it just doesn't quite make the maindeck. Very side-deckable, though, and main-deckable if you're on a budget. |
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