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| Kyp Durron | Jul 22 2005, 08:25 PM Post #16 |
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besides vamp, u scream about originality, yet u urge ppl to use Vortex and Morphing? that's a little hypocritical ain't it?? |
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| Vampire Lord | Jul 22 2005, 09:57 PM Post #17 |
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Erm, when have I screamed about originality? I wrote one article about how people who want to be original can be. Besides, not using good cards for the sake of being "original" is just plain stupid if you want to be competitive. RFS was complaining about her lack of victory, and I have fixed her deck to the best of my ability. Cyber Jar is NOT good for a swarm deck, because you don't want to fall behind enough that you need it in the first place! And if you do fall behind, Lightning Vortex will even out the field about as well as Cyber, without putting you at the risk of losing the duel very quickly. Nobleman of Crossout IS as good as people think. I'd go so far as to call it a staple in an aggressive deck. Some of my original suggestions were out there, but that was due to me not putting much thought into them. I have since put a LOT of consideration into my suggestions. |
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| Kyp Durron | Jul 22 2005, 10:21 PM Post #18 |
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who says u can't skip over good cards and win?? i don't run a lightning vortex, pheonix, or Brain control, nor would i if i had them. doesn't mean i don't want to win, it means i would find other, less likely to be negated, more original, more consistent, ways to get the same effect. |
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| Vampire Lord | Jul 22 2005, 10:23 PM Post #19 |
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Phoenix and Brain Control aren't staples; they're actually quite thematic. I don't run Vortex either, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't if I obtained one. What thematic cards, exactly, are more consistent then Vortex but get the job done? By thematic, I mean "original" cards only found within a certain theme. |
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| Kyp Durron | Jul 22 2005, 10:44 PM Post #20 |
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Try ALO, Necrovalley, and Strike Ninja |
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| Raging Flame Sprite | Jul 22 2005, 10:48 PM Post #21 |
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ok.....didn't know this big a conflict would arise...i say nothing else.... (and, no NoC is...dare i say it....overrated. major. terrible topdeck, only useful against certain decks, when FD play is common. some decks will never play a single mon FD...) |
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| Vampire Lord | Jul 22 2005, 11:38 PM Post #22 |
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Lol, what deck could possibly never play a monster FD? Even Normal Monster Beatdown decks would probably resort to that if they had to do it to protect their LP from a big-beater. Plus, cards like Tsukuyomi and Book of Moon can flip monsters face-down so Nobleman can hit them. |
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| Apocolypse | Jul 23 2005, 02:17 AM Post #23 |
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Yes, but some decks only set like 3 monsters at max if at all. For tehy may never draw a FD creature. Beleive it or not, a deck can run without the setting of a monster. I still stay NoC is so not needed. Over rated indeed. PLus it is was to situational at times. You have to have certain cards at the same time as it to combo stuff. |
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| Vampire Lord | Jul 23 2005, 04:30 PM Post #24 |
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Oh, I agree that not all decks set monsters. But probably 90% of them do at least some of the time, and CCC decks set monsters constantly. " Try ALO, Necrovalley, and Strike Ninja" I wasn't aware any of those cleared the field. For mass monster destruction, Lightning Vortex is tough to beat. |
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| Kyp Durron | Jul 23 2005, 07:51 PM Post #25 |
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u asked what thematic cards are better than vortex. not what cards cleared the feild. |
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| Vampire Lord | Jul 23 2005, 08:09 PM Post #26 |
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I asked what thematic cards are more consistent than Vortex and "get the job done," by which I meant that they had to accomplish the same thing as Vortex. There's no question that there are better cards than Vortex, but Vortex is quite a good card in many themes. |
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| Kyp Durron | Jul 23 2005, 08:24 PM Post #27 |
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there are better things than clearing the field. Vortex can be a -1 card advantage, where Exiled Force is a 1-1 or better. thus it is more consistent. |
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| Apocolypse | Jul 29 2005, 07:14 PM Post #28 |
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They are both good. Vortex's downfall is that it cannot clear the WHOLE field and you lose a card. But it can be worth it to play to get rid of some powerful monsters. Exiled you can only kill one monster by killing itself, but it is able to kill a f/d monster too. Thus, they are BOTH GOOD. |
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| Vampire Lord | Jul 29 2005, 09:36 PM Post #29 |
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Exiled does synergize well with many decks -- you can't search Vortex out, but Exiled can fit into beastdown, Zombies, Earth, etc. in addition to CCC. |
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| Apocolypse | Jul 30 2005, 02:49 PM Post #30 |
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Yah, another + for Exiled, much easier to search out. |
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