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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 23 2005, 05:52 PM (358 Views) | |
| Vampire Lord | Aug 23 2005, 05:52 PM Post #1 |
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The New Banlist I am positively ECSTATIC over the new banlist. On almost all the choices made, I agree. My prediction is that Zombies will rise to even more supremacy, because the single best themed monster in the game (Vampire Lord) is now at 3 per deck! I mean ... whoa. And Warriors have their 3 Marauding Captains, giving them broken power. Goat Control is dead. 1 Goat, 1 TER, 1 Tsuku, 1 BoM, 1 Morph ... Goat Control is worthless. Chaos is no longer going to dominate, because 3x Chaos Sorcerer cannot compare to BLS-Envoy (thank goodness for its banning!) But Zombies ... oh, Zombies! They will swarm their way to the pinnacle of the dueling environment. The new Zombie line-up will be 3x Vampire Lord, 3x Pyramid Turtle, 2x Spirit Reaper, and 1-2x Ryu Kokki. Or at least, that’s mine. Confiscation returning is AWESOME. Delinquent Duo, arguably the most potent magic card in the game, is banned, along with Graceful. The Trinity is no more, replaced by the vastly weaker pair of Confiscation and Pot of Greed. I love this banlist. My deck archetype is now, without question, the strongest in the game. Machines could’ve stood a chance ... but Limiter is banned, so scratch that. Warriors lost their trump card, while Zombies now have 3 of their best monster at their disposal! Here is the new banlist: FORBIDDEN (NONE PER DECK): Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning Butterfly Dagger -- Elma Change of Heart Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End Delinquent Duo Executioner Makyura Fiber Jar Forceful Sentry Graceful Charity Harpy's Feather Duster Imperial Order Magical Scientist Mirage of Nightmare Mirror Force Monster Reborn Painful Choice Raigeki Ring of Destruction Sinister Serpent Witch of the Black Forest Yata Garasu LIMITED (ONE PER DECK): Book of Moon ** Breaker the Magical Warrior Call of the Haunted Card Destruction Ceasefire Confiscation Cyber Jar Dark Hole D. D. Warrior Lady Dark Magician of Chaos Deck Devastation Virus Delinquent Duo Exiled Force Exodia the Forbidden One Heavy Storm Injection Fairy Lily Jinzo Left Arm of the Forbidden One Left Leg of the Forbidden One Lightning Vortex Limiter Removal Mage Power Magic Cylinder Metamorphosis Morphing Jar Mystical Space Typhoon Night Assailant Pot of Greed Premature Burial Protector of the Sanctuary Reckless Greed Reflect Bounder Right Arm of the Forbidden One Right Leg of the Forbidden One Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys Sangan Scapegoat Sinister Serpent Snatch Steal Swords of Revealing Light Thousand Eyes Restrict Torrential Tribute Tribe-Infecting Virus Tsukuyomi Twin-Headed Behemoth United We Stand SEMI-LIMITED (TWO PER DECK): Abyss Soldier Creature Swap Dark Scorpion - Chick the Yellow Emergency Provisions Good Goblin Housekeeping Gravity Bind Last Turn Level Limit - Area B Manticore of Darkness Marauding Captain Nobleman of Crossout Reinforcement of the Army Upstart Goblin |
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| kingofduel | Aug 23 2005, 06:04 PM Post #2 |
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Rod banned???? Crap! Why is butterfly dagger-elma banned? Just because it's a super rare equip card that does the same thing as Horn of the Unicorn!! But aside from that, the banned list is cool! |
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| Vampire Lord | Aug 23 2005, 06:38 PM Post #3 |
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Because it, combined with certain other cards, contributes to a OTK. |
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| tea'sfavoriteharumboy | Aug 23 2005, 06:39 PM Post #4 |
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the thing w/ elma is that it returns to the hand immediately, so when you combo it w/ woodland sprite, you win automatically.... anyway, i am loving the new banlist as well, but i don't really like tsuku being limited (even though i only have one, i was gonna get another :-( ) apart from that, all is good... but i'm not sure how many will appriove of RoD being banned.... i do though.... |
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....that was a joke up above .....ok no it wasn't. .....Got you again. ......or did I | |
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| warelock | Aug 23 2005, 11:10 PM Post #5 |
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Where did you get this list ? |
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| warelock | Aug 23 2005, 11:23 PM Post #6 |
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This is not the new ban list. Here is Kevin Tewart on the Judge list : Originally Posted by Kevin Tewart Here's some news to keep everybody in the loop on the upcoming Forbidden List. As you may be aware, Asia changes their Forbidden/Limited List on March 1 and September 1. We change ours on April 1 and October 1, 30 days after Asia. This is because we want to give people more time to prepare changes to their decks, rather than just a few days' notice. In Asia, the new September 1 list is currently beginning distribution. The first place that the information will appear is in publications produced by the Jump magazine group. Konami will be putting the list up on their web page after the Jump magazines are in full circulation in Asia, since the Jump magazines get first dibs on this information. Over the past couple months, UDE has been in extensive contact with Konami regarding the Forbidden List. We have been aware that A LOT of players here were not happy with the current list, and we've been beating Konami over the head with that, like a big manga mallet. In the end, after extensive discussions (and far too many nights of Kevin working until 3 AM), Konami agreed to implement several (but not all) of our suggestions. If you take a look at the new Asian list (which you can find through yugioh-card.com in a couple more days), you might be surprised at the extent that it goes towards curbing some of the more... shall we say, troublesome, elements of the game we've seen. We were very happy that Konami was receptive to our points regarding several cards. HOWEVER, some of the things that we've been discussing with Konami are the significant differences between the Asian game environment and the environment everywhere else. There are many cards available in Asia (mostly promo cards) that are not available here yet. This has a huge impact on which cards are powerful and which cards are not so powerful. Also, play styles are incredibly different. There are decks used here that Asian players have never seen before, and vice versa. Rather than have the UDE play environment dictate the Asian Forbidden List, and rather than have the Asian play environment dictate the Forbidden List in the rest of the world, we may be moving to a system where there are separate Forbidden/Limited Lists for Asia vs. Americas/Europe/AUS&NZ. What this means is that we're discussing a situation where some cards might be Forbidden in Japan but still legal here, or vice-versa. Or something might be Limited here, but still allowed in 3's in Japan. You get the idea. Another important element is the Traditional Format, which does not exist in Asia. Konami may want to allow certain cards again so that players can blow the dust off of them and pull them out of their binders in order to play with those cards again. For us this is not a concern, since all cards are usable in Traditional Format, so we’re not keen on allowing some cards back into Advanced Format just for the sake of having them playable again. In this respect, Traditional Format is sort of our "safety valve", one which Asia does not have access to. This is all still under discussion. We're hoping to get it all settled in the next week or two. Fortunately, since our list doesn't go into effect until October 1 anyway, we have a little bit of a buffer zone with which to work this all out. Our goal is to have a fun and exciting game environment. Konami's goal is exactly the same. If different Forbidden/Limited Lists in different areas will help promote this, then that is what we will do. In the mean time, please sit tight. It's gonna be a wild ride. Kevin Tewart Game Designer UDE Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG R&D Lead Upper Deck Entertainment So .. let's wait and see, folks. Although I would be happy with this list - or any other, frankly. |
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| Vampire Lord | Aug 23 2005, 11:51 PM Post #7 |
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"the thing w/ elma is that it returns to the hand immediately, so when you combo it w/ woodland sprite, you win automatically...." That's wrong. Woodland Sprite states that the card is sent to the GY, not destroyed. The combo would not work. What you do is combine Gearfried, Elma, and a card that lets you draw each time an equip spell is destroyed (forgot the name). With your whole deck at your disposal, you should win in one turn. |
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| kingofduel | Aug 24 2005, 06:15 AM Post #8 |
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I get it! |
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| tea'sfavoriteharumboy | Aug 27 2005, 06:45 PM Post #9 |
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the name is royal magical library, vamps.... and apparently, this is the asain one..... the amerrican one should be released oin the first of september.... or october, forget which.... |
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....that was a joke up above .....ok no it wasn't. .....Got you again. ......or did I | |
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| kingofduel | Aug 28 2005, 11:26 AM Post #10 |
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Ok, I can wait till then. |
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